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| 2004-12-10 | ||
Quoted by Nawa-e-Waqt, Jamaat Islami chief Qazi Hussain Ahmad visited the Banuri Masjid complex in Karachi and accused the government of killing two clerical leaders of the mosque, Mufti Shamzai and Mufti Jameel. He said the government had done nothing to catch the murderers of Mufti Shamzai after it had been given information about the murderers. He said the killing was curious because when Shamzai was killed the police had disappeared from the scene to clear the way for killers. He said Mufti Jameel was killed even though he had kept his arrival in Karachi secret, arriving one day earlier than the known schedule, but even then he was killed on the basis of inside information. What is 'etekaaf'? According to Dr Abdul Rauf in Khabrain, etekaaf [divine trance] is a constant focus on Allah for a period of time not less than one night and one day continuously; but it could go on for days. The idiom is etekaaf par bethna. It has to be done in a mosque where collective prayer is offered. Etekaaf is not obligatory but is sunnat or practice of the Prophet PBUH. It is compulsory to fast while in etekaaf which can be done in Ramazan or in any month. During this divine trance all namaz prayers are to be offered interspersed with readings of the Quran and its exegesis. It is however very important not to be distracted. The obligation of tatti-peshab (urination and defecation) has to be gone through quickly some place near the mosque and care should be taken to get it over with in one minute. Similarly, it is forbidden to indulge in jama (fornication) during etekaaf. It is also forbidden to go to the doctor for long diagnosis because it breaks the concentration. It is better to call the doctor to the place of etekaaf. To be silent and not to read or recite anything destroys etekaaf and is a sin. Judges in 'divine trance' According to Jang, two judges of the Lahore High court had sat in divine trance (etekaaf par baith gayay) which meant they would not be available for work for a number of days. The paper also reported that a cleric doing the trance in Shuja Abad was savagely clubbed in the head by someone. A large number of people had requested the government for giving them permission (on payment) to do the trance in Faisal Mosque in Islamabad but the government was scared that they could be attacked by terrorists. According to daily Pakistan 3,000 people had sat on etekaaf in Lahore's Data Darbar mosque. Killed for refusing 'jama-talashi' According to Jang, one man was killed and another injured after quarrelling with a committee asking people to allow body search before entering a mosque in Rawalpindi. The two young men became angry that they were being asked to submit to body search (jama-talashi) because they were fasting and were in sacred rage. After the quarrel a fight ensued in which one man was killed. America will be destroyed! Sarerahe quoted ex-ISI chief General Hameed Gul in Nawa-e-Waqt as saying that the victory of George Bush would destroy the United States because Bush had divided the nation. He said the American nation was now fragmented and had lost its ability to make important decisions. Quran insulted, hospital burned According to Jang people of Dalbandin found that pages of the Quran were scattered in a jungle. They became greatly incensed and came to the conclusion that a local NGO must have done the evil deed on orders from America. Three thousand citizens gathered and went to the nearest hospital run by the said NGO. They burned the hospital down, destroyed all the machinery and as their last sacred act stole the surgical instruments. The levees were called in but the incensed crowd threw stones at them too. According to daily Pakistan the incident took place near Chaghai where Pakistan tested its nuclear device in 1998. The ulema in divine rage said that the Quran was insulted as a result of a conspiracy of the Jews who were running the NGOs. They said that if any representative of the UN came to the area they would shoot him full of bullets. Dalbandin is where the Arab princes shoot bustard. | ||
| Posted by:Paul Moloney |
| #19 Divine Rage That's the name of my new band, man... |
| Posted by: Zack DeLaRocha 2004-12-10 6:26:39 PM |
| #18 LH: Shall build the waste places is about the Jews rebuilding the land of Israel, of course Bzzzzzzt! Bad Answer! It was a call to arms for the first civil engineers. Al-aska Paul will back me up on that |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-12-10 6:09:24 PM |
| #17 It's like old times! Sniff. :) |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-12-10 5:39:46 PM |
| #16 which point is not original? that fasting should be done in a spirit that makes us better, but can lead to contention and violence? No, its not original, it was made 2500 years ago by this dude named Yashayah (what Isaiahs name really was) and so it seemed natural to post it about these Pakis with "issues". Sorry if i said something wrong. And sorry if my lack of appreciation for biblical bathroom jokes shows my lack of a sense of humor. I must be a good 'red stater' after all. (no move to Canada for me :) ) |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-12-10 4:48:29 PM |
| #15 Lh - Sheesh. No shit? Great - I got it on the first go, whaddya know. Thanks for your contribution, though it's not your thread and your point is not original. Call me after you get the |
| Posted by: .com 2004-12-10 4:38:59 PM |
| #14 ...etekaaf [divine trance] is a constant focus on Allah for a period of time not less than one night and one day continuously; but it could go on for days. Etekaaf, huh? Gee, kinda sounds like stupor to me. |
| Posted by: Jules 187 2004-12-10 4:30:27 PM |
| #13 dot com Just stuff ive got from this liberal book called the bible. Shall build the waste places is about the Jews rebuilding the land of Israel, of course. But thanks for your contribution. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-12-10 4:20:39 PM |
| #12 Lh - Okay, so which of these likely phrases corresponds to taking a dump in 60 seconds? 1) "to undo the heavy burdens" 2) "thine health shall spring forth speedily" 3) "shall build the old waste places" Just wondering, since you're apparently on a roll, here. :-) |
| Posted by: .com 2004-12-10 1:25:12 PM |
| #11 because they were fasting and were in sacred rage. After the quarrel a fight ensued in which one man was killed. "Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high. Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD? Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward. Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day: And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. " Isaiah, Chapter 58. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-12-10 1:01:49 PM |
| #10 I'm somewhat ashamed of thinking that a Paki nuclear exchange with India might be an evolutionary plus. Whatta bunch of ignorant assholes. Burned down the hospital over finding some trash in the jungle? F*&k em |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-12-10 10:21:00 AM |
| #9 Sacred Rage That one is a keeper! ROTFLMAO! And at 6AM local time. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2004-12-10 10:04:18 AM |
| #8 It's nuggets like these that make me want to nuke the whole lot. |
| Posted by: Tom 2004-12-10 9:22:34 AM |
| #7 According to Jang, two judges of the Lahore High court had sat in divine trance (etekaaf par baith gayay) which meant they would not be available for work for a number of days. The paper also reported that a cleric doing the trance in Shuja Abad was savagely clubbed in the head by someone. Some good news, finally. According to Jang people of Dalbandin found that pages of the Quran were scattered in a jungle. They became greatly incensed and came to the conclusion that a local NGO must have done the evil deed on orders from America. Three thousand citizens gathered and went to the nearest hospital run by the said NGO. They burned the hospital down, destroyed all the machinery and as their last sacred act stole the surgical instruments. The levees were called in but the incensed crowd threw stones at them too. According to daily Pakistan the incident took place near Chaghai where Pakistan tested its nuclear device in 1998. The ulema in divine rage said that the Quran was insulted as a result of a conspiracy of the Jews who were running the NGOs. They said that if any representative of the UN came to the area they would shoot him full of bullets. Dalbandin is where the Arab princes shoot bustard. In which case, they'd be shooting a b*st*rd. According to Jang, one man was killed and another injured after quarrelling with a committee asking people to allow body search before entering a mosque in Rawalpindi. The two young men became angry that they were being asked to submit to body search (jama-talashi) because they were fasting and were in sacred rage. After the quarrel a fight ensued in which one man was killed. IMHO, whatever lets Muslims win is okay with Islam. |
| Posted by: Ptah 2004-12-10 9:09:51 AM |
| #6 The idiom is etekaaf par bethna. Sounds like an ether binge. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-12-10 7:32:11 AM |
| #5 Etekaaf looks a lot like a kind of yoga, except the Muslims have made up a bunch of weird and senseless rules to go along with it. The hospital thing is kind of revealing -- there's some mass delusional thinking running amok there. |
| Posted by: HV 2004-12-10 7:08:56 AM |
| #4 Heck it would take that long to get their 3 pebbles lined up. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-12-10 3:27:05 AM |
| #3 That etekaaf thingy is pretty weird. The shit in a minute rule has to be the toughest. They don't say if someone whips out a stopwatch or anything, but still... |
| Posted by: .com 2004-12-10 2:38:19 AM |
| #2 yes-yes-they don't need surgical instruments as they do genital mutalation with jagged pieces of dirty glass--works fo them |
| Posted by: SON OF TOLUI 2004-12-10 2:30:43 AM |
| #1 Divine rage. You gotta love the nuggets. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-12-10 12:19:30 AM |