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U.S. Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground
2005-01-08
There goes his career...
HONOLULU - A nuclear submarine ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam, injuring several sailors, one of them critically, the Navy said. There were no reports of damage to the USS San Francisco's reactor plant, which was operating normally, the Navy said. Jon Yoshishige, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet based at Pearl Harbor, said the Friday afternoon incident is under investigation and the 360-foot submarine was headed back to its home port in Guam. Details on the sailors' injuries were not immediately available. The sub has a crew of 137, officials said. Military and Coast Guard aircraft from Guam were en route to monitor the submarine and assist if needed, the Navy said.
Posted by:tu3031

#32  That's a career ending move. The watch officer AND skipper will never see a command or promotion again.

Especially with a critical injury as noted.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-08 10:52:22 AM  

#31  That's a career ending move. The watch officer AND skipper will never see a command or promotion again.

Especially with a critical injury as noted.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-08 10:52:22 AM  

#30  Just foolin', mind. My ex-military ex-colleagues used to forward me classic email threads in which Army and Navy men would trade epic insults along these lines.

But (serious note) one of them was kidnapped and almost certainly executed near Tikrit last fall. F*** them, f*** those fascists. Just defeat them. Victory is all. Please cease the jokes and banter on this, it's not funny anymore. Sorry for getting emoptional and personal here.
Posted by: lex   2005-01-08 10:20:47 PM  

#29  lex, I'm surprised, but lol.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-01-08 10:13:37 PM  

#28  Sort of like enlisting with Aris's shipmates on the SS Mykonos
Posted by: lex   2005-01-08 10:10:14 PM  

#27  ;-)
Posted by: .com   2005-01-08 9:56:31 PM  

#26  That'll do, .com-- at ease.
Posted by: lex   2005-01-08 9:53:26 PM  

#25  Mrs D - Lol! Uh oh, this is about to get out of hand, methinks, lol!
Posted by: .com   2005-01-08 9:49:15 PM  

#24  Definitely want to stay out of the torpedo room.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-01-08 9:47:04 PM  

#23  lex - Lol!
Posted by: .com   2005-01-08 9:45:41 PM  

#22  I'm not sure I'd commit myself to service in a confined space for several months with a bunch of sailors on a boat named after the city of San Francisco...
Posted by: lex   2005-01-08 9:44:41 PM  

#21  Many of the details still aren't known, although it is gen true that such incidents can ruin naval careers - in Guam's former SRF, one AFS was legendary for its captains andor crews losing its anchors a few times in a row, includ one while testing to replace the one anchor it had only just previously lost. The ship allegedly failed to make sure its brand-new new anchor was securely attached in its forward space/trunk near the bow -when "anchors away" was given, the brand new anchor in the whole went straight down into the Marianas Trench, or parts thereabout - the Captain, whom had now lost two anchors under his watch, was allegedly de-captained after that! With Chicom subs reportedly prowling around Guam and WESTPAC, and with fewer attack subs than during the Cold War, the US Navy's missions can't be compromised due to sub accidents.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2005-01-08 8:26:10 PM  

#20  Is it possible that the sub's maps were rendered inaccurate by the earthquake that caused the tsunami? Are ships/subs expected to check to make sure the maps are correct? Or is this one of those common sense things (which we all know isn't all that common) in this post-tsunami world?
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-01-08 7:55:20 PM  

#19  Ouch...can you say "deductible"?
Posted by: Rafael   2005-01-08 6:54:29 PM  

#18  Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-01-08 4:28:18 PM  

#17  I dunno, I'm not sure of the wisdom of sullying of a boat and its crew by assigning it the name of a place as contemptible as Berkeley...or an individual as detestable as Jimmy Carter. San Francisco I don't hate as much, but it's getting there.

If you can see the ground through your runway, perhaps an alternate landing site is advisable..

At least it wasn't a Globemaster or a Galaxy that was damaged...
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-01-08 3:43:19 PM  

#16  It is in fact the officials of the city who are extatic when Navy names a submarine after the City. I am eagerly wait for Navy naming a missile-carrying submarine after a pacifist nest's name eg USS Berkeley.

JFM: There was the expected shitstorm after the Navy named SSN 705 Corpus Crisiti... renamed City of Corpus Crisit.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-01-08 3:21:48 PM  

#15  nice..... what an "OH SHIT" moment..
Posted by: Frank G   2005-01-08 3:11:29 PM  

#14  Speaking of running aground...



If you can see the ground through your runway, perhaps an alternate landing site is advisable...


Posted by: Zpaz   2005-01-08 2:37:29 PM  

#13  I'm waiting for .com's hot pic of the "seamen" he posted a couple of days ago. Ya know, in respect to the USS San Francisco!
Posted by: BA   2005-01-08 2:30:41 PM  

#12  Bomb-a-Rama

Once upon a time (during and after WWII) submarines had fish names but one of the Admirals commanding the submarines changed that saying "Fishes don't vote". He was speaking of Congressmen and Senators who vote naval budgets.

That is why you have submarines named after San Francisco or Los Angeles.

It is in fact the officials of the city who are extatic when Navy names a submarine after the City. I am eagerly wait for Navy naming a missile-carrying submarine after a pacifist nest's name eg USS Berkeley.
Posted by: JFM   2005-01-08 12:31:00 PM  

#11  Re#10

The DDs ran aground in a nasty fog off the California coast, one after another. Lots of garbled signals compounded the problem.
Posted by: mom   2005-01-08 12:17:13 PM  

#10  It depends. I believe that Nimitz (Halsey? King?) once ran a DD aground. His career seemed to have done OK.

Back in 1920 (+/-) a whole DD flotilla ran aground. It was rough weather, the lead ship hit a sand bar, and the rest followed the leader.
Posted by: jackal   2005-01-08 11:36:27 AM  

#9  BAR - Good point. I think we should call the next Carrier the USS Berkeley.....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-01-08 11:32:39 AM  

#8  This is just great, I can hear it now.

"Its the submarine that laid the Nuclear bomb that caused the Tsunami..."
Posted by: Thavinter Glomort2553   2005-01-08 11:31:34 AM  

#7  The USS San Francisco? With an on-board nuclear reactor?

I'm surprised some dumbass SF supervisor or other government official hasn't objected to the use of their city's name on a nuclear powered vessel.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-01-08 11:22:40 AM  

#6  He grounds the warship he walks on. I hope the casualties are okay.
Posted by: Penguin   2005-01-08 11:11:47 AM  

#5  Avoid Rocks & Shoals lest your vessel be imperiled needlessly.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-01-08 11:06:15 AM  

#4  I wouldn't want to be anybody in that wardroom. Except maybe Lt. Maryk.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-01-08 11:00:48 AM  

#3  That's a career ending move. The watch officer AND skipper will never see a command or promotion again.

Especially with a critical injury as noted.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-08 10:52:22 AM  

#2  The deepest point of the Mariana Trench is called The Challenger Deep , so named after the British exploration vessel HMS Challenger II, and it is located 210 miles south-west of Guam. This depth was reached in 1960 by the Trieste, a manned submersible owned by the U.S. Navy.They touched bottom at 35,813 ft/10,915m. That means, while they were parked on the bottom in the bathyscaphe, there were almost seven miles/11km of water over their heads.

I would think it would be kinda tough to run a sub aground in the Mariana's Trench.
Posted by: tu3031   2005-01-08 10:29:47 AM  

#1  Ow! That's got to be a career-limiting move.

Don't nuke boats have curb feelers?
Posted by: SteveS   2005-01-08 10:04:36 AM  

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