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Hacker breaches T-Mobile systems, reads US Secret Service email
2005-01-12
Posted by:Dutchgeek

#13  Look Here for a definition of FOUO.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM  

#12  Non-issue. These guys are just puffing things up to make for a better story.

If it was anything truly classified, it would not be on a non-secure system, especially an over-the-air system like that. If they allowed classified to spill there, the agents in question should have their asses handed to them for breaching security.

From my experience:

"Sensitive" documents? That means they wer not classified -otherwise they would have said "classified documents". Bascially, these are things like confirmations of actions and unclassified policy stuff (like the memorandum alluded to in the article). At worst it was "Unclassified/FOUO" info, probably due to personal privacy issues (Privacy laws cause a lot of stuff to be marked for restricted distribution due to sensitive nature of personal info in them - if you dont, you can get sued). If there was any truly classified stuff there the agent who put it there should be fired.

Putting on my "devil's Advocate" hat...

Remember, its in the best interest of the press AND the Secret Service to "play up" the nature of the documents, because it makes for a better story for the press, and makes the uninformed judge/jury think that these documents were somehow more special, and thus more likely to convict and hand down a harsh sentence. And the Secret Service can then use the threat of that to bargain with him to flip to their side.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM  

#11  Look Here for a definition of FOUO.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM  

#10  Non-issue. These guys are just puffing things up to make for a better story.

If it was anything truly classified, it would not be on a non-secure system, especially an over-the-air system like that. If they allowed classified to spill there, the agents in question should have their asses handed to them for breaching security.

From my experience:

"Sensitive" documents? That means they wer not classified -otherwise they would have said "classified documents". Bascially, these are things like confirmations of actions and unclassified policy stuff (like the memorandum alluded to in the article). At worst it was "Unclassified/FOUO" info, probably due to personal privacy issues (Privacy laws cause a lot of stuff to be marked for restricted distribution due to sensitive nature of personal info in them - if you dont, you can get sued). If there was any truly classified stuff there the agent who put it there should be fired.

Putting on my "devil's Advocate" hat...

Remember, its in the best interest of the press AND the Secret Service to "play up" the nature of the documents, because it makes for a better story for the press, and makes the uninformed judge/jury think that these documents were somehow more special, and thus more likely to convict and hand down a harsh sentence. And the Secret Service can then use the threat of that to bargain with him to flip to their side.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM  

#9  Just a 'connection' of T-Mobile, their spokesman, and a lawsuit by her over publication of 'personal photos'. I'm not saying they're connected to this.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-01-12 4:52:42 PM  

#8  There's something in the back of my head regarding Catherine Zeta Jones,..

With T-Mobile, I guess you really do "get more".
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-01-12 1:04:15 PM  

#7  Dishman. Catherine Zeta Jones. Oh, er, what was the rest of your message? I had trouble getting by CZJ.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen   2005-01-12 11:21:23 AM  

#6  While it may not be significant for the Secret Service... it looks really bad for T-Mobile.
... particularly since he was able to target users.
There's something in the back of my head regarding Catherine Zeta Jones, photographs, and a lawsuit.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-01-12 11:18:55 AM  

#5  ...and yet some of these hackers are quite bright, have too much time on their hands, are motivated, and have a kind of sociopathic personality that drives them to match wits with in place computer security systems. Computer security might be an achilles heel for a technologically sophisticated country. Hackers don't have to hack into Secret Service computer files; they can go after less secure targets and raise havoc. We need to focus a lot of attention on protecting computer systems that are tied to our infrastructure.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen   2005-01-12 10:43:40 AM  

#4  OS ...good point!
Posted by: 2b   2005-01-12 10:30:53 AM  

#3  Look Here for a definition of FOUO.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM  

#2  Non-issue. These guys are just puffing things up to make for a better story.

If it was anything truly classified, it would not be on a non-secure system, especially an over-the-air system like that. If they allowed classified to spill there, the agents in question should have their asses handed to them for breaching security.

From my experience:

"Sensitive" documents? That means they wer not classified -otherwise they would have said "classified documents". Bascially, these are things like confirmations of actions and unclassified policy stuff (like the memorandum alluded to in the article). At worst it was "Unclassified/FOUO" info, probably due to personal privacy issues (Privacy laws cause a lot of stuff to be marked for restricted distribution due to sensitive nature of personal info in them - if you dont, you can get sued). If there was any truly classified stuff there the agent who put it there should be fired.

Putting on my "devil's Advocate" hat...

Remember, its in the best interest of the press AND the Secret Service to "play up" the nature of the documents, because it makes for a better story for the press, and makes the uninformed judge/jury think that these documents were somehow more special, and thus more likely to convict and hand down a harsh sentence. And the Secret Service can then use the threat of that to bargain with him to flip to their side.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM  

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Posted by: MacNails   2005-01-12 10:12:35 AM  

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