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VDH: Stories of Imperial Collapse Are Getting Old
2005-01-27
The most recent doom-and-gloom forecast by Matthew Parris of the London Times would be hilarious if it were not so hackneyed. After all, Americans long ago have learned to grin any time a British intellectual talks about the upstart's foreordained imperial collapse. And as in the case of our own intelligentsia's gloominess, it is not hard to distinguish the usual prophets' pessimistic prognostications from their thinly-disguised hopes for American decline and fall.

But this country is now in its third century and assurances that the United States is about through are getting old. In the early 20th century the rage was first Spengler and then Toynbee who warned us that our crass consumer capitalism would lead to inevitable spiritual decay. Next, the Hitlerians assured the Volk that the mongrel Americans could never set foot on German-occupied soil, so decadent were these Chicago mobsters and uncouth cowboys. Existentialism and pity for the empty man in the gray flannel suit were the rage of the 1950s, as Americans, we were told, had become depressed and given up in the face of racial inequality, rapid suburbanization, and the spread of world-wide national liberationist movements.

In the 1960s and 1970s we heard of the population bomb and all sorts of catastrophes in store for the United States and the world in general that had unwisely followed its profligate paradigm of consumption; yet despite Paul Ehrlich's strident doomsday scenario, the environment got cleaner and the people of the globe richer. And then came the historian Paul Kennedy, who, citing earlier Spanish and English implosions, "proved" that the United States had played itself out in the Cold War, ruining its economy to match the Soviet Union in a hopeless arms race—publishing his findings shortly before the Russian empire collapsed and the American economy took off (again).
Posted by:tipper

#5  The fact that the American people voted the Democrats out of power is indicative of a nation on the ascendancy instead of in decline. Perhaps the intellectuals identify so thoroughly with the Democrats, that they have mentally transferred the malaise and innui following the implosion of the Democrats to the country as a whole. As usual, they have tried to extrapolate from a single point.
Posted by: RWV   2005-01-27 7:47:53 PM  

#4  For a righteous fisking of the Parris article, turn to Iberian Notes.

I wrote (well, adapted) a song for the occasion (with additional lyrics by John).
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2005-01-27 3:46:11 PM  

#3  Honestly, I think we are just beginning our real ascent. If there is a parallel to us in world history it would be the Romans for their power, reach, effeciency, discipline and the Pax Romana. But unlike most predictions the parallel is not with Rome's decline but with the beginning of its ascendence.

It remains to be seen if we the heirs of Rome can maintain our ascendency for as long as they did (1000 yrs) but if they could do it, why couldn't we? It also remains to be seen whether it is possible for us to learn from what happened to Rome or if its even possible for humans to avoid it. How long will we be able to hold onto power justly? How long will we be able to stay a healthy civilization? Will we be able to step down graciously at some point without resorting to brutal repression in some futile attempt to contain new upstart forces in the world?

I think the answers to these questions will be a long time in coming because we're actually just getting started. I predict that the answers will be positive ones because we have already avoided so many of the problems that eventually brought Rome down. Imperialism is one. Its hard to think of a powerful people more averse to the idea of empire than Americans who still somehow keenly remember how much we disliked it when it was us. Americans dont want to be anywhere else than right here. We dont want our soldiers anywhere else than right here protecting our borders. I dont think many people understand the depth of our feelings about this nor how deep is our reluctance to send our soldiers away to foriegn lands.

As long as that never changes we'll stay in good shape.
Posted by: peggy   2005-01-27 12:14:40 PM  

#2  Fairbanks????? Well, maybe at 60 below.....
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-01-27 11:39:57 AM  

#1  thanks VDH!
Posted by: 2b   2005-01-27 11:27:13 AM  

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