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Africa: North
'Muslims of Al-An dalus (Now Spain) Still Mark Every Year in Anguish'
2005-03-06
After more than five centuries, Muslims of Al-Andalus (now Spain) still mark every year in anguish the mass exodus of their ancestors by Spanish authorities to North Africa. The Moriscos, the name given to Muslims who were living in Spain after the fall of the last Muslim stronghold of Granada in 1492, were subjected to an array of persecution, torture, mass killings, forced conversions to Christianity, the notorious Spanish Inquisition and mass exodus that started in February 1502. Today, up to four million great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great- grandsons of the Moriscos are living in North African countries like Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. They used to commemorate every year these painful memories to keep the agonies of their forebears vivid, Moroccan historian Bin Azouz Hakim, a specialist in the history of the Moriscos, told IslamOnline.net Sunday.

Morsicos's descendants in Morocco, who are concentrated in cities like Tangier, Fes, Marrakesh and Rabat, mark every year the fall of Granada and Al-Andalus, which was regained in 1492 by Spanish troops in the long process known as the Reconquista under the Catholic monarchs Isabella I of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon. The descendants, many of whom still have Spanish surnames, mark the anniversary with symposiums, Andalusian music and shows portraying the sufferings of their ancestors. The northern city of Shafshoun, which was built by the Moriscos when they were forced to flee to Morocco, still have the Moriscan aura with its Andalusian architecture and traditional Moriscan costumes.
I was born in a place called McCarr, in Pike County, Kentucky. It's not there anymore. The Tug River flooded in, I think, 1973, and washed it away. Gone. Kaput. I haven't held any seminars on it, and on the rare occasions when I go to visit my long-lost kinfolk, I go where they're living now. And that was only 30 years ago. I guess I'm not sensitive enough to be a Moose limb.
Posted by:Fred

#14  Three words for these wussie-assed whiny losers: GET OVER IT.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-03-06 4:11:08 PM  

#13  ....Still seething, after all these years...

Thanks for the inspiration, CF, heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-03-06 1:30:13 PM  

#12  500 years and still seething......
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-03-06 12:41:44 PM  

#11  as much as things change - the stay the same ..no?
Posted by: 2b   2005-03-06 12:28:30 PM  

#10  eb

Nope, the conquest of Spain was very quick what took 784 years was the Reconquista

Historical notes: like Harold in England the King of the Wisigoths was warring in the North of his realm, he quickly went to the South to meet the invaders meaning that like Harold he went to battle with an exhausted and incomplete army and like Harold he was killed in the battle. The resulting confusion and the revolts of the Catholics against the Arian Wisigoths (1) allowed the Muslims to conquer Spain in very little time.

In 718 seven years after the invasion a small troop (a few hundreds at the most) of Muslims on a mop-up/plunder/tax-collection mission was ambushed at Lakes of Covadonga (North of Spain). This allowed the formation of a tiny Christian kingdom in the mounts of Asturias.

(1) Note: At one point the Wisigoths controlled both France and Spain (it was them who with help from the Romans crushed Attila) but they were Arian Christians and with time they became more and more intolerant towards Catholicism and persecuted their Catholic subjects. They ended losing the Gaule to the Franks (whose king had opportunately converted to Catholicism) in no small measure due to the revolts of their Catholic subjects. You would think that would have teached the Wisigoths a lesson and that in Spain they would relax their persecution of Catholics but no, they continued the same intolearant policy who had led to disaster in Gaule and got the same results. The Christian Kingdoms of the Reconquista didn't consider themselves as continuing the Wisigoths kingdom so for practical effects the Wisigoths disappeared.
Posted by: JFM   2005-03-06 12:12:22 PM  

#9  how many centuries did they regress once they were back in Islam's clammy embrace? 5? 7?
A religion of Losers and Whiners and Fifth Columns? CAIR should be documented and catalogued so when the round up needs to begin, there's no delay
Posted by: Frank G   2005-03-06 10:22:23 AM  

#8  Ever notice how movements that wrap themselves in the "good old days" usually involve a bunch of losers and leads to a lot of pain and anguish for everyone else?
Posted by: Snuger Pherong4887   2005-03-06 9:57:37 AM  

#7  we should feel heartened by this. If it took them 500 years to conquer Spain, imagine how long it will take them to conquer the US...at least we won't be around.
Posted by: 2b   2005-03-06 8:41:51 AM  

#6  Fred man thatn a terrible nakaba, you should feel persecute!
Posted by: Y Gibbons   2005-03-06 8:35:55 AM  

#5  The Muslim chronicle about the consquest of Spain gloats about the enslaving of "thirty thousand women of great beauty". No if you think about it, if those women had been enslaved for say, cleaning dishes, their beauty would have been irrelevant. Their beauty mattered becauuse they were destined to be raped by the highest bider. Now the Moriscos want for Spain apologizing and indemnifying them. Forgive me if I think that negotiations should not be about what Spain pays to Moriscos but about what the Arab world pays to Spain. I suugest one oil well for each one of the raped women with Spain picking the wells of course.
Posted by: JFM   2005-03-06 4:01:00 AM  

#4  I don't have time and space to detail the reasons the Muslims were expelled from Spain (revolts with massacres of Christain populations, Muslims acting as a fifth column for the Turks,jealousy of Old Christains who were not happy to see Muslims keep lands they had stolen thnaks to Sharia provisions, like testimony of non-Muslims not being equal to the one of Muslims, a man converting to Islam getting ALL heirloom and his Christian brothers getting nothing or the need to pay protection money to Muslims since they weren't allowed to defend their life and propetrty against Muslims.
Posted by: JFM   2005-03-06 3:54:15 AM  

#3  And you thought they only want to liberate Palestine.
Posted by: gromgorru   2005-03-06 3:49:39 AM  

#2  Where are the descendants of the Spanish Christian slaves the muslims took?
Posted by: ed   2005-03-06 1:16:51 AM  

#1  March 11, 2004.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2005-03-06 12:15:30 AM  

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