You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Home Front: Culture Wars
Terri Schiavo case and how it affects Gays.
2005-03-23
Tip form DU (Yes them)
Ever wonder what makes the Liberals tick? Well you have to understand that the WHOLE world revolves around them:

Terri Schiavo and Gay Marriage

Posted by Plaid Adder
Added to homepage Wed Mar 23rd 2005, 08:13 AM ET
Part of the anger provoked by Congress's decision to intervene in the Schiavo case comes from our sense that we ought to be able to resolve things like this within our own families without Big Brother butting in. And part of it has specifically to do with the fact that the husband's wishes about what happens to his wife are being nullified not just by the parents but by Congress, which wants to overrule a series of judicial decisions that has recognized their validity.

OK, straight folks who don't understand why we want marriage, look at it this way: if my partner had a heart attack tomorrow, and got put on life support even though she was brain dead, I would have no say in the decision about whether to withdraw life support. My interpretation of her wishes, and my own wishes, would be legally irrelevant and no court would recognize them because our relationship has no legal status. With the new medical privacy laws, I would have to ask her family's permission just to get in to see her. Now fortunately her family likes me and they would want me involved, but if it were different, I'd be SOL.

We have drawn up powers of attorney and living wills but we haven't signed them yet. We are registered as domestic partners in the county where Liza works but that's not worth a Republican's curse when it comes to medical care. And that means that if one of us were in Terri Schiavo's condition, the other would have NO legal standing and no right to influence the decision about whether she lived or died. In theory, her parents could decide to withdraw life support over my objections; they could also decide to continue it over my objections. Either way, there would be no court battle, because I would have nothing to fight with.

What's being done by Congress to Michael Schiavo right now under extraordinary circumstances and with a great deal of outcry could be done to most gay people in this country who were in a similar situation without even causing a blip on the radar.

This is why it matters to be married, folks. You need it more in sickness than you do in health, and more in the worse than you do in the better.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

You see? The Terri Schiavo case is not about the sanctity of life, it's about gays and their lack of legal representation. Note to Ms. Adder: Sign the power of Attorney with your "Partner" and it does become a legal document and nobody (not even the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy) could challenge it. Next week: How terrorism is based on Republicans mean treatment of Gay rights!
Posted by:Cyber Sarge

#10  This should be page 3?
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-03-23 10:33:45 AM  

#9  This should be page 3?
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-03-23 10:33:45 AM  

#8  "From the first nanny state, the Kaiser's Germany, to Stalin's gulags and the "right to die" movement, LLLs are just natural born killers."

When they don't get themselves killed.
Posted by: Korora   2005-03-23 10:45:57 PM  

#7  From the first nanny state, the Kaiser's Germany, to Stalin's gulags and the "right to die" movement, LLLs are just natural born killers. If it involves the power to take someone's life, or to endanger innocent life (as through gun confiscation) they are for it.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-03-23 5:02:13 PM  

#6  Google Mr. Felos, and Ronald Cranford M.D, who has refered to himself as "Dr. Humane Death" and you'll find that they are both rabid pro-death advocates. Felos, in his own book, describes his spiritual awakening to "God" sending him out to his spiritual work of helping people die. Even if you don't know if they want to, aparently.
Posted by: Sgt.D.T.   2005-03-23 4:07:19 PM  

#5  This just in. Terri used to be allowed to go out with her parents--to the mall, the park, etc. And she enjoyed it. However, for the past 5 years Michael Schiavo has forbidden such outings and has warehoused her in the hospital room with no stimuli--no tv, no music/radio, with the blinds drawn.

As I said. Michael Schiavo is an abusive psycopath.
Posted by: ex-lib   2005-03-23 12:45:53 PM  

#4  Thanks Cyber Sarge.

Plaid Adder is confusing the issue (surprise, surprise) in order to insert her deconstructionist agenda. The fact is, anyone can compose a living will, specifying end of life preferences, including those they wish, or don't wish, to be involved in decision making. Changing the structure of society isn't necessary to protect those rights.

"Big Brother" is not "butting in" in the Terri Schiavo case. The truth is that at least some in the government are trying to protect the rights of a citizen of the United States.

Some thoughts on the Terri Schiavo issue:

Michael Schiavo was known to be abusive. Terri had indicated that she wanted a divorce.

On the night of her injury it was reported by paramedics as a homicide. It was never investigated by police.

Emergency room doctors said her presentation was inconsistent with a heart attack. Terri had broken bones and a head trauma.

Michael Schiavo has refused to allow for the provision of even the most rudimentary rehabilitative therapy--she was not given physical or speech therapy, or range of motion therapy. Her muscles have deteriorated and are contracted.

According to legitimate medical experts, she has not had the benefit of modern medicine or the appropriate medical tests having to do with brain function determinations.

She was not allowed to have her teeth cleaned.

She was not allowed to be given antibiotics when she had urinary tract infections and other infections.

She has ulcerated bed sores.

She has not been allowed to eat on her own, although she can. She has not been allowed to learn to walk again, although she was learning when she was first injured.

Michael Schiavo kept his extramarital relationship a secret, though he has had children through the relationship. By refusing to divorce Terri and hand guardianship over to her parents, he retains control of Terri.

Michael Schiavo has repeatedly indicated that he wants Terri to die.

Michael Schiavo evidently attempted to kill Terri by injecting her with insulin at a nursing care facility.

Michael Schiavo prevented Terri’s priest from administering Roman Catholic last rites Communion (-i.e., the placement of a small crumb of the wafer on her tongue) after the feeding tube was removed.

Michael Schiavo, with the help of the MSM, has misreported the facts regarding her. She is not in a persistent vegetative state. She is not on life support. She is not “brain dead.”

The aim of Michael Schiavo is to, literally, bury the evidence against him regarding an attempted murder charge. I believe he is a psychopath who sees women as property.

The aim of the deconstructionists, who are using the situation to their advantage, is to further redefine the value we place on human life by weakening that ethic. A second aim is to destroy people’s faith in government. End game goal? People who are afraid are much easier to control. When you destroy the things that make for a strong society, which way will the pendulum (eventually) swing?


BETTER READING:

The MSM's life and death distortions
here

Terri Schiavo’s nurse’s affidavit
here

President Bush and the Culture of Life
here

Between Travesty and Tragedy
here


Posted by: ex-lib   2005-03-23 11:05:04 AM  

#3  Sarge - Your highlight point shows the power of the lefti-kook association's ability to ignore the full story, aided by thier sycopants , MSM.
Posted by: BigEd   2005-03-23 10:55:52 AM  

#2  Page 3 is titled as "Of Interest". Adder's "complaint" doesn't evoke much in the way of that.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-03-23 10:42:54 AM  

#1  This should be page 3?
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-03-23 10:33:45 AM  

00:00