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Arabia
Saudi raid turns into deadly firefight
2005-04-04
Saudi security forces have exchanged fire with members of an armed group they had attempted to arrest, resulting in at least four deaths and many more wounded. Aljazeera has learned that at least one Saudi police officer was shot dead on Sunday and another 15 had been wounded by midday. Saudi Arabia's Al-Ekhbariya television broadcast Prince Faisal bin Bandar bin Abd al-Aziz confirming that three suspected rebels had been shot dead. "They were asked to surrender, but those people are known not to listen," Faisal told the television station. He described the gunmen as "terrorists" but did not say which organisation they belonged to.
"Youse in there! Throw down yer shootin' irons and come out witcher hands up!"
"You'll never take us alive, coppers!"
"Hokay. Mahmoud, kill them all. I'm going to lunch."
The firefight erupted about 8am in the city of al-Ras in al-Qasim region, 355km northwest of the capital, Riyadh, after security forces surrounded several wanted men in a neighbourhood called al-Jawazat, a security source in Riyadh said. The gun battles began early on Sunday morning and dragged on into the night, Reuters quoted a security source as saying. An Interior Ministry source said the suspects hurled grenades during the battle. Several security vehicles were damaged. Another security source earlier said that the clash took place as security forces raided a house where "suspected members of the deviant group (official terminology for suspected al-Qaida sympathisers) were believed to be hiding". Witnesses said they saw at least three people being carried away from the house on Sunday morning, but it was not clear whether they were wounded or dead.
"Owowowowowow..."
"Is he wounded or dead, sergeant?"
"Owowowowow [Snap!]... Aaaaaiiiiieeeeee! Rosebud!"
"Dead, sir!"
The incident came less than a month after a suspected al-Qaida member was arrested along with two of his companions, after a heavy gun battle on 13 March in the Red Sea city of Jedda.

UPDATE: Gunmen still resisting in north Saudi
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, April 4 (UPI) -- Security forces and gunmen entrenched inside a building traded gunfire Monday in northern Saudi Arabia. Witnesses in the city of Ras in the province of al-Kassim, 400 kilometers (250 miles) north of Riyadh, said the clashes, which began Sunday, were intermittent. There was no official casualty count but security sources who requested anonymity told UPI a number of security forces -- some 25 -- had been injured, mainly from shrapnel. The governor of al-Kassim, Prince Faisal bin Bandar bin Abdul Aziz, said three gunmen were killed in the confrontation. He said two police were seriously injured and underwent surgery while the rest suffered superficial injuries.

Prince Faisal said security forces managed to rout gunmen from several hideouts, but unconfirmed reports said as many as 21 gunmen, including several terror suspects, were still entrenched inside a building and resisting. Abdullah al-Rashoud, who figures on an official list of 26 most wanted terrorists in Saudi Arabia, is believed to be among the resisting gunmen.
Posted by:Fred

#6  Current body count of dead al-Qaeda "militants" stands at 7, maybe 8, with one critically wounded captured.
Posted by: Steve   2005-04-04 2:28:43 PM  

#5  This little encouter lasted 1.5 days. How many Bad guys dead? Who were they aligned with?
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-04-04 1:25:55 PM  

#4  Thanks for the background, .com.
Posted by: Spot   2005-04-04 8:17:40 AM  

#3  My view... Picture Nayef as The PuppetMaster and the guys getting caught in shootouts mainly as stray bin Laden-believers - basically free-lancers and unconnected hotheads who got caught up in some hardcore imam's bin Laden cult.

If ya wanna pack heat in the World's Largest Ashtray, and maintain 98.6, ya gotta have a Princely sponsor - one that's connected. The bin Laden Caliphate Boyz have accomplished nothing other than drive out the families of expats by bravely murdering unarmed civilians. I dunno how many there are, but they don't have the resources Nayef commands - so they're toast.

Now the funny thing is that old Nayef is definitely playing the other side, too, in a slow-burn Clan war with Abdullah. I think the paltry number of captures (that live very long) after fairly successful attacks (those requiring planning and resources and escape routes, hint, hint) sort of makes this case. Those that take direction well (are smart enough to attack only whom they're told, when they're told) live a little longer - until he needs to show some bodies for political cover. The dumbest ones get served up on the evening news at the first opportunity. The pattern of surrounded guys getting away, wounded captives dying before anyone else (other than Nayef's State Police) can question them, etc. makes it as clear as it ever gets in Arab internecine affairs. That's my take, anyway.
Posted by: .com   2005-04-04 5:51:54 AM  

#2  When do they start raiding the "devant" princes that are supporting al-Qaida?
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-04-04 12:32:45 AM  

#1  Command peformance Fred. ***** + + + + +
Posted by: Clereng Thereper1968   2005-04-04 12:32:17 AM  

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