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Conservative Indian cardinals join contenders to succeed pope
2005-04-05
Seems that two of the Indian cardinals are a "problem" because they agree with JP2 on certain things like abortion, etc., and that makes the reporters unhappy.
Posted by:Steve White

#14  Very true TGA. Thats why I will not speak any more about whom I favor.

Who are you hearing as "favorite" over in your part of Europe?

The US keeps talking about the South Americans, especially the Brazilian, or else the African (more out of novelty I think for having a black Pope). The only Europeans talked about here are the Belgian (dismissed usually as too liberal), and the Austrian. And Ratzenburger of course because he is such a hard-line conservative is feared here by the Catholic "left", but is talked about as a "short term" pope due to his age (77).

But I do hope that whichever one of the Cardinals is called, we end up with a man that is very conservative with us and the faith inside the Church like JP-II, and compassionate but unwavering in his bedrock faith to those outside the Church.

It will take far beyond my lifetime for the Church to fully go through John Paul II's writings - they are an immense source of intellectual wealth and spiritual wisdom for the Church. I think at a minimum, JP-II will end up joining Augustine as a Doctor of the Church. What a thought that is.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 3:40:42 PM  

#13  There will never be a US pope. People hate us too much, and our Cardinals always seem to be too weak and liberal, with a few execptions. Cardinal Stafford comes to mind, the complete antithesis of Cardinal Law, especially when it came to handling paedophile priests.

Thats why you see the Archdiocese of Denver doing well (and with Archbishop Chaput that I like very much - very well spoken and conservative along the lines of JP-II, read his stuff - its online in a lot of places), and the Archdiocese of Boston being sued into oblivion.

Still, I wish that Phillipino Cardinal was still active - he has such a great name....

Cardinal Sin.

Imagine the headlines.... Heh.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 2:31:43 PM  

#12  Wait until they read Ratzburger's resume - and just about 70% of all the other Cardinals too.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 2:24:25 AM  

#11  Very true TGA. Thats why I will not speak any more about whom I favor.

Who are you hearing as "favorite" over in your part of Europe?

The US keeps talking about the South Americans, especially the Brazilian, or else the African (more out of novelty I think for having a black Pope). The only Europeans talked about here are the Belgian (dismissed usually as too liberal), and the Austrian. And Ratzenburger of course because he is such a hard-line conservative is feared here by the Catholic "left", but is talked about as a "short term" pope due to his age (77).

But I do hope that whichever one of the Cardinals is called, we end up with a man that is very conservative with us and the faith inside the Church like JP-II, and compassionate but unwavering in his bedrock faith to those outside the Church.

It will take far beyond my lifetime for the Church to fully go through John Paul II's writings - they are an immense source of intellectual wealth and spiritual wisdom for the Church. I think at a minimum, JP-II will end up joining Augustine as a Doctor of the Church. What a thought that is.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 3:40:42 PM  

#10  There will never be a US pope. People hate us too much, and our Cardinals always seem to be too weak and liberal, with a few execptions. Cardinal Stafford comes to mind, the complete antithesis of Cardinal Law, especially when it came to handling paedophile priests.

Thats why you see the Archdiocese of Denver doing well (and with Archbishop Chaput that I like very much - very well spoken and conservative along the lines of JP-II, read his stuff - its online in a lot of places), and the Archdiocese of Boston being sued into oblivion.

Still, I wish that Phillipino Cardinal was still active - he has such a great name....

Cardinal Sin.

Imagine the headlines.... Heh.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 2:31:43 PM  

#9  Wait until they read Ratzburger's resume - and just about 70% of all the other Cardinals too.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 2:24:25 AM  

#8  Tony's not only a good Roaman but a grad of the FSU La skool.
Posted by: Trivia Note   2005-04-05 7:17:38 PM  

#7  The US keeps talking about the South Americans, especially the Brazilian, or else the African (more out of novelty I think for having a black Pope).

On a serious note, would not the Nigerian Cardinal being selected have an effect of poking a finger in the eye of Islamofacism, owing to the Sharia nonesense that is going on in the North?

Not being Catholic, I figure doctrinially that most of the leading candidates have similar views, but the cultural differences, and the geographic ones, have to weigh on the minds of those voting. As Islamofacism is as paramount a problem today as Communism was when John Paul II took over in 1978...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-04-05 5:43:42 PM  

#6  "Any adult male catholic may become pope."



Tony LaRussa


But, he is a Cardinal, and an adult male Catholic.

OK OK everybody is so glum... I thought we all needed to laugh a little...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-04-05 5:01:28 PM  

#5  Very true TGA. Thats why I will not speak any more about whom I favor.

Who are you hearing as "favorite" over in your part of Europe?

The US keeps talking about the South Americans, especially the Brazilian, or else the African (more out of novelty I think for having a black Pope). The only Europeans talked about here are the Belgian (dismissed usually as too liberal), and the Austrian. And Ratzenburger of course because he is such a hard-line conservative is feared here by the Catholic "left", but is talked about as a "short term" pope due to his age (77).

But I do hope that whichever one of the Cardinals is called, we end up with a man that is very conservative with us and the faith inside the Church like JP-II, and compassionate but unwavering in his bedrock faith to those outside the Church.

It will take far beyond my lifetime for the Church to fully go through John Paul II's writings - they are an immense source of intellectual wealth and spiritual wisdom for the Church. I think at a minimum, JP-II will end up joining Augustine as a Doctor of the Church. What a thought that is.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 3:40:42 PM  

#4  Enter the conclave as pope, leave as cardinal
Posted by: True German Ally   2005-04-05 2:34:24 PM  

#3  There will never be a US pope. People hate us too much, and our Cardinals always seem to be too weak and liberal, with a few execptions. Cardinal Stafford comes to mind, the complete antithesis of Cardinal Law, especially when it came to handling paedophile priests.

Thats why you see the Archdiocese of Denver doing well (and with Archbishop Chaput that I like very much - very well spoken and conservative along the lines of JP-II, read his stuff - its online in a lot of places), and the Archdiocese of Boston being sued into oblivion.

Still, I wish that Phillipino Cardinal was still active - he has such a great name....

Cardinal Sin.

Imagine the headlines.... Heh.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 2:31:43 PM  

#2  I'm available, and ready and willing to serve. Just call me...
Posted by: Bernie Law   2005-04-05 11:00:19 AM  

#1  Wait until they read Ratzburger's resume - and just about 70% of all the other Cardinals too.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-05 2:24:25 AM  

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