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| Mad Ogre's brother reports on Abu Ghraib raid |
| 2005-04-07 |
| Excerpts from his emails follow. Names blocked out. "Yeah, I don't know what the news is saying, but it was no small deal. I was assigned to go with a group of Humvees and drive around, so I pass up a few humvees and finally decide to get into one, get this, *******'s in it! He just convoyed up from Bucca! So me and ******* were driving around together through all the morters and stuff! It was great!" "Well, i guess i can actually wear my combat badge without feeling guilty now. i was up in a tower when the first mortar rounds fell. an ice truck got hit in front of my tower so i grabbed my rifle, shotgun and ammo and ran for the bunker. so i had ALL my ammo which was a good thing cuz the guy i was sharing the bunker with didn't have any. i spent the battle in a bunker covering the north gate. after the firing died down a little i had to us the FN-303 to make sure the detainees didn't riot. they rioted in other compounds, but not mine. it was crazy shit man. don't believe what the news says, the marines killed ALOT of people. i heard CNN say that only one insurgent was killed...bull????. and despite what the news says, no marines were killed. i saw the first mortar hit, and i was there to see the last one. i saw the WHOLE thing, fun stuff. even though ******* is in camp Bucca way in the south, he happened to be up here for convoy duty, so him and ***** where roving together. but the battle really ended when the apaches showed up. after that they were ????ed, they were doomed. there are body parts laying around all over the place outside. so im still doing good and I'm ok. wish you were here! Well, the marines are actually going home in a few days, so they don't need anything. only 3 marines were seriously injured. one will lose an eye. the other two i don't know about." "Yo! I think the news reports are saying that one insurgent died. Not true at all. We only found one body, but that's because they drag their dead away. However, there is a ditch surrounding Abu Ghraib and the Marines that manned the towers said that they were literally mowing fools down. IN the morning everyone saw the ditch, it was filled with body parts. I'm sorry, but you find someone's jaw, I'd count that as a kill, but I'm not the defense department. We'll tell you all about it when we get to Utah. As for now, I'm doing good. Oh, and please thank The Horde for me. the movies and music were all very much appreciated! Adios for now." |
| Posted by:Dar |
| #9 I wonder how many mass attacks these morons are going to try. This has to be the work of replacement higher-ups who are either so stupid or so desperate that they will try anything. I read that this was an extremely well executed plan...and they got their asses wiped. DO NOT, repeat DO NOT f**ck with the US Marines! |
| Posted by: Remoteman 2005-04-07 7:13:23 PM |
| #8 Well said Robert Crawford |
| Posted by: SwissTex 2005-04-07 7:09:36 PM |
| #7 You got it, body counts a lose-lose game . Meanwhile spread the word about our special lockup. |
| Posted by: Sgt Cal Cutter 2005-04-07 3:26:15 PM |
| #6 We don't need to play up body counts. Just keep taking them out. If more want to play, fine. Take them out, too. Then all the Saudi dads and moms can talk to each other and sometime it will hit them like a ton of bricks that all of their boys are gone. Then they will start asking questions about a possible Black Hole. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2005-04-07 3:15:23 PM |
| #5 They'll ALWAYS accept the numbers claimed by America's enemies, and if the military presents numbers that differ at all, the press will play "gotcha". That's Marc Herold in a nutshell. |
| Posted by: Raj 2005-04-07 2:01:59 PM |
| #4 I’m sorry, but you find someone’s jaw, I’d count that as a kill, but I’m not the defense department. Somebody share that line with Roger Simon, that just has to make it into the next Moses Wine novel. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2005-04-07 2:01:29 PM |
| #3 I think the policy of not acknowedging enemy body counts works against the US. Absolutely not. Body count games are an instant win for the press. They'll ALWAYS accept the numbers claimed by America's enemies, and if the military presents numbers that differ at all, the press will play "gotcha". If the military estimate is too high, then "as in Vietnam, reports are being inflated to make the situation look good". If the military estimate is too low, "critics believe the military is underplaying the lethality and randomness of their firepower in order to curtail criticism". More importantly, body counts are meaningless in determining who won. You want to know how this battle turned out? You sure as hell don't count corpses -- you look at the fact that we still hold Abu Ghraib and that none of the inmates got out. Sounds like a victory to me. No body count games, ever. Just the facts on the mission, please. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2005-04-07 10:47:52 AM |
| #2 I cannot find one mention of a Miranda warning being issued to any of the Minutemen who had showed up for what they obviously thought was "Visiting Day at Abu Ghraib". I'm sure the ACLU will look into this for us. But in the meantime: HooRah Marines!! |
| Posted by: Justrand 2005-04-07 10:33:22 AM |
| #1 I think the policy of not acknowedging enemy body counts works against the US. When a situation like this happens and a lot of jihadi bodies are stacked up, I think a count should be made known and images broadcast. If not for US tv, then for Iraqi and Arab tv to drive home the knowledge that to F with the US military is to meet certain and unromantic death. |
| Posted by: ed 2005-04-07 10:31:50 AM |