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2005-04-26
I've redone the "All Articles" (PHP) page to make it a little more functional. We've had lockups two nights in a row, at 1.30 in the morning. I'm hoping I found the cause for that, but it's just as likely it was something else. So trying rantburg.com/index.php may give you what's up, even though comments may not work right on it for the next few days. As I get time, I'm going to switch a lot more of the site to PHP routines.
Posted by:Fred

#22  I love to read chinese!:)
Posted by: SwissTex   2005-04-26 11:18:35 PM  

#21  Never used ActiveHTML. I use ssi and that works for any path from web root. In Perl I have a small lib to slurp ssi includes and they can be on any path provided that the privileges are set. Yup, I am a Perl guy, as god intended, although PHP is fine with me too.
Posted by: Sobiesky   2005-04-26 10:54:09 PM  

#20  I'm hoping that's the case. I guess I'll find out about the uptime for ActiveHTML. I have no idea how it'll behave under load, but to date it's the only alternative I have.

As it turns out, the only pages I have to rewrite are Rantburg -- it doesn't do well with include files that aren't in the same directory. All the other stuff on the server either doesn't use includes or they're local.
Posted by: Fred   2005-04-26 8:11:31 PM  

#19  Fred, Apache uptime would be very likely far better than IIS, even in windoze environment.
Posted by: Sobiesky   2005-04-26 5:02:13 PM  

#18  RC, if you email your HW and config specs, maybe I can help. However, running MDK as a server is not that brightest an idea. I run RH, or FreeBSD on my servers, only. If you can find another cheapo box, just small hd and cdrom to install...you don't need a monitor hookup after that, I would recommend Engarde. They have a 'community' version that is free and it is very stable (you just have to tweak the config a bit, it is very anal, err... secure).
Posted by: Sobiesky   2005-04-26 4:57:59 PM  

#17  SPOD -- I suspect the problem is an interation between my hardware and Mandrake, not Mandrake itself. I haven't recompiled the kernel, so who knows what's in it.

The only requirements I have for a distribution now are "will it stay running" and "can I keep my /home the way it is".
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-04-26 4:15:04 PM  

#16  When I first started using PHP it was a pain in the nether regions. I've been using ASP for six or seven years -- it's what my customers use. I've been reaching for PHP more often lately, as I get used to it.

But my Linux box sits neglected in my office, even though IIS is demonstrably a pain. I'm wondering what the uptime difference is going to be in an all-Apache environment.
Posted by: Fred   2005-04-26 3:58:31 PM  

#15  Mandrake for a server? Ouch, never tried it but I have been running the Desktop Mandrake since 2000. I can understand your pain.

All I can say is Debian is great. I have a second system running Debian testing and it's a fine system.

Fred is locked in with all the data he has, so swapping the OS is not an option. PHP on Apache on a Windows server is a good solution. But you still have a learning curve. Fred you are braver than I.

Robert I have a friend who has a Mandrake server up that has this uptime
[root@bento root]# uptime
13:07:03 up 413 days, 31 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[root@bento root]# cat /etc/mandrake-release
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586
[root@bento root]#
It's underlight use. For internal development. No "live" stuff. They run Mandrake facing the real world to.

I say use the tool that works. I have no bias about OSes or Distros. I just have preferences. If someone shows me a better way I'll use it. Mandrake has it's own quirks and has heavy customisation. That makes it a poor choice for some uses unless you are hip to that, have time for the learning curve if you are coming from another distro. It can lead to hair loss due to stress and hands full of hair. I am a member of the "Mandriva Club" since the name change from Mandrake. I have a love hate relationship with it.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-04-26 3:23:11 PM  

#14  Mandrake?! It's a Frog distribution! Of course it's flaky. Get SuSE Professional 9.x. The Germans know how to assemble cars and Linux distributions.

Hmmm... You can't imagine how tempted I am. I had a server that went, oh, a YEAR without problems. Then I wanted to upgrade to use some new software. I looked around, and liked what I heard about Mandrake's package management.

Install Mandrake. System shuts down, seemingly at random, about twice a week.

Hardware? The machine is a couple years old, and is a cheap box never meant to run 24/7.

Build a new machine. Transplant drives from old machine into new one.

Crashes continue. Best uptime is a week and a half.

Tonight I'm going to (finally) put the monitor back on that machine to see what the console says after the crash. If that doesn't give me any clues, then SuSE will be on its way!
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-04-26 2:51:11 PM  

#13  And it doesn't lock you in to a particular OS either. Funny how that works, huh?
Posted by: mojo   2005-04-26 1:41:36 PM  

#12  PHP is the way :) best for database driven sites at least . Good call Fred
Posted by: MacNails   2005-04-26 1:34:40 PM  

#11  Fred, I wuz teazin' them Linux boyz.
Posted by: badanov   2005-04-26 1:16:33 PM  

#10  I can't run BSD because it doesn't read .asp files. Even if I convert everything, we're stuck with 60,000 articles that reference asp pages.

As a compromise, I've bought a module that will allow me to use .asp under Apache, though only on Win32. Best I can do...
Posted by: Fred   2005-04-26 1:12:36 PM  

#9  The 21st Century is the Dawn of the Dead ;o)
Posted by: badanov   2005-04-26 11:03:59 AM  

#8  RC: Mandrake?! It's a Frog distribution! Of course it's flaky. Get SuSE Professional 9.x. The Germans know how to assemble cars and Linux distributions.
Posted by: Jonathan   2005-04-26 10:45:15 AM  

#7  Looks like there's still a little heat problem with the microprocessor....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-04-26 10:03:26 AM  

#6  Thanks as always, Fred.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-04-26 9:51:56 AM  

#5  Lock-ups? That's sounding familiar. Ever since I "upgraded" to Mandrake, my site's been flaky as a biscuit.

Grrrr....
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-04-26 9:15:44 AM  

#4  It's a feature, not a bug. . . . :)
Posted by: Doc8404   2005-04-26 8:49:00 AM  

#3  I've had trouble with both opening comments and Rantburg(cannot display...)for the last couple of days,off and on.Would this be part of what your talking about?
Posted by: raptor   2005-04-26 8:40:06 AM  

#2  It was the debugging that drove me to my end-user status. But my computer jockey siblings tell me that's the fun part... do try not to have too much fun! ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-04-26 6:41:54 AM  

#1  Purdy.
Posted by: badanov   2005-04-26 12:46:46 AM  

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