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Earth's air is clean but this may worsen the greenhouse effect
2005-05-06
Air polution may be a good thing! I love comedies!
Our planet's air has cleared up in the past decade or two, allowing more sunshine to reach the ground, say two studies in Science this week. Reductions in industrial emissions in many countries, along with the use of particulate filters for car exhausts and smoke stacks, seem to have reduced the amount of dirt in the atmosphere and made the sky more transparent. That sounds like very good news. But the researchers say that more solar energy arriving on the ground will also make the surface warmer, and this may add to the problems of global warming.
Yeah. We were damned when we didn't. Now we're damned when we did.
More sunlight will also have knock-on effects on cloud cover, winds, rainfall and air temperature that are difficult to predict. The results suggest that a downward trend in the amount of sunlight reaching the surface, which has been observed since measurements began in the late 1950s, is now over. The researchers argue that this trend, commonly called 'global dimming', reversed more than a decade ago, probably following the collapse of communist economies and the consequent decrease in industrial pollutants. The widespread brightening has remained unnoticed until now simply because there wasn't enough data for a statistically significant analysis, says Martin Wild, an atmospheric scientist at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich and an author on one of the reports.
That means there wasn't grant money available, I'd guess...
Wild and his team looked at data on surface sunshine levels from hundreds of devices around the planet. They found that since the 1980s there has been a transition from decreasing to increasing solar radiation nearly everywhere, except in heavily polluted areas such as India and at scattered sites in Australia, Africa, and South America1. A second study, led by Rachel Pinker from the University of Maryland, College Park, found a similar trend by looking at satellite data, although their research suggests the extent of the brightening is smaller. Unlike ground stations, satellites can sample the whole planet, including the oceans. However, satellite data are difficult to calibrate, and so are considered less accurate than measurements from the ground.
Posted by:Sobiesky

#17  Sounder like a purdy good hearted woman.
Posted by: Phoebe Snow   2005-05-06 19:04  

#16  Kinky Friedman:

Put another log on the fire,
Cook me up some bacon and some beans,
Go out to the car and change the tire,
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.
Fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers,
Boil me up another pot of tea.
Put another log on the fire, girl,
Come and tell me why you’re leaving me.

Don’t I let you wash the car on sunday ?
Don’t I warn you when you’re getting fat ?
Hey, fatso!
Ain’t I gonna take you fishing some day ?
Well, a man can’t love a woman more than that.

Ain’t I always nice to your kid sister,
Don’t I take her driving every night ?
So sit here at my feet because I like you when you’re sweet
And you know that it ain’t feminine to fight.

Put another log on the fire,
Cook me up some bacon and some beans,
Go out to the car and change the tire,
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.

Fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers,
Boil me up another pot of tea.
Put another log on the fire, woman,
Come and tell me why you’re leaving me.
Yeah, come and tell me why you’re leaving me.
Posted by: Frank G   2005-05-06 18:41  

#15  Throw another log onto the fire.
Cook me up some bacon and some beans.
Don't you know that I love you darlin'.

I can't remember the rest.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-05-06 18:18  

#14  mhw, back in the early days of Kyoto people showed a graph of global temperature and CO2 levels side by side as evidence that CO2 was the cause. They all got pulled when someone pointed out that CO2 levels lag temperature changes and hence this is conclusive proof that CO2 can not be the primary causative agent.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-05-06 18:11  

#13  why don't we just melt the polar icecaps Back in the 70s when global cooling and the next 'ice age' was the big concern, a number of experiments were conducted to assess the feasibility of doing just that.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-05-06 18:02  

#12  Good idea, sorta like a controlled burn. A controlled melt. Good thinking tu
Posted by: Shipman   2005-05-06 13:19  

#11  Instead of all these grants, why don't we just melt the polar icecaps and get it over with? It might be cheaper.
Posted by: tu3031   2005-05-06 12:53  

#10  The only thing most scientists want is a grant for further study. Not noble, but hey, scientists have to eat too.
Posted by: RWV   2005-05-06 12:47  

#9  craig

there are several factors that keep the earth from going to a runaway ice age or runaway tropics

one easy to understand factor is that during glaciation the ocean level drops and carbonate rocks are exposed which allows more carbon dioxide in the air which eventually raises temps

during warm epochs, the carbonate rocks are underwater and they absorb carbon dissolved in the ocean which eventually cools temps
Posted by: mhw   2005-05-06 10:35  

#8  this can only be solved by massive financial grants to Academia with no strings attached (to avoid the apparent conflict of interest....)
Posted by: Frank G   2005-05-06 10:27  

#7  Ice Age? Bah! It was all the fault of those Cro-Magnons and their Thatcherite economics.
Posted by: eLarson   2005-05-06 10:06  

#6  Yeah, if they're not seeing a dimming in China, then maybe, just maybe, their methods are crap. Cleaner air technology my fat flabby white ass.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2005-05-06 09:15  

#5  The researchers argue that this trend, commonly called ’global dimming’, reversed more than a decade ago, probably following the collapse of communist economies and the consequent decrease in industrial pollutants.

Gotta hand it to him, at least he didn't find a way to pin it on Pres. Bush or the Joooooos, even though it was 10 years ago!
Posted by: BA   2005-05-06 08:57  

#4  Anyone remember the ''throw another log on the fire'' song from ''Fallen Angels''?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-05-06 08:37  

#3  I wish these supposed scientists and experts make-up my damned mind!
Posted by: raptor   2005-05-06 08:35  

#2  Uncertainties remain part of the game because scientists have only a limited ability to track cloud cover and particulates, says Macke

This is the ultimate disclaimer. The same programs that are used to predict rain tomorrow (and we all know how accurate they are) are plugged full of skewed data to show a 1 deg C change in 50 years. Total bullshit.
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2005-05-06 07:23  

#1  It makes my head hurt. Even without the effects of nasty capitalists, this globe swings between ice ages and nearly total tropical climate, yet neither of those supposedly self-reinforcing extremes ever do end up totally running away.

I mean, glaciation should promote more cooling and further glaciation to the point of freezing the entire planet, via increased albedo effect. And tropification should promote even hotter climate due to blanketing the entire atmosphere with heat absorbing clouds.

Some huge effects obviously control and reverse these runaway senarios. How can the puny work of man be more than a tiny blip in the vast natural cycles of this globe?
Posted by: Craig   2005-05-06 07:00  

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