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| 2005-05-13 |
| Senior Defense Department officials yesterday said there is no evidence corroborating a news report that interrogators flushed a Koran down a toilet to intimidate Muslim prisoners held at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that in an unconfirmed incident, a Guantanamo prisoner flushed pages from a Koran down a toilet in an attempt to clog it. Newsweek magazine reported May 9 that U.S. interrogators at the prison had desecrated the Muslim holy book. The report was blamed for prompting a series of violent demonstrations this week in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the homelands of many of the more than 500 men held at Guantanamo. Gen. Myers told reporters in Washington that Army Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, the head of U.S. Southern Command, has been in Guantanamo for the last couple of days digging into this issue to see if there was a time when the Koran was not respected. They have looked through the logs, the interrogation logs, and they cannot confirm yet that there was ever the case of the toilet incident, Gen. Myers said. He did note a log entry, which they still have to confirm, where a detainee was reported by a guard to be ripping pages out of a Koran and putting them in a toilet to stop it up as a protest, he said. But not where the U.S. did it. Rest at link. What is not in dispute is that a few years ago Arab terrorists, while running from Israelis, took hostages in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity and used one of the Holiest Churches in Christiandom as their toilet for 39 days. http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp490.htm On April 24, the Jerusalem Post reported on the damage that the PA forces were causing: Three Armenian monks, who had been held hostage by the Palestinian gunmen inside Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, managed to flee the church area via a side gate yesterday morning. They immediately thanked the soldiers for rescuing them. They told army officers the gunmen had stolen gold and other property, including crucifixes and prayer books, and had caused damage.... One of the monks, Narkiss Korasian, later told reporters: "They stole everything, they opened the doors one by one and stole everything....They stole our prayer books and four crosses...they didn't leave anything. Thank you for your help, we will never forget it." Israeli officials said the monks said the gunmen had also begun beating and attacking clergymen. When the siege finally ended, the PA soldiers left the church in terrible condition: The Palestinian gunmen holed up in the Church of the Nativity seized church stockpiles of food and "ate like greedy monsters" until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry. They also guzzled beer, wine, and Johnnie Walker scotch that they found in priests' quarters, undeterred by the Islamic ban on drinking alcohol. The indulgence lasted for about two weeks into the 39-day siege, when the food and drink ran out, according to an account by four Greek Orthodox priests who were trapped inside for the entire ordeal.... The Orthodox priests and a number of civilians have said the gunmen created a regime of fear. Even in the Roman Catholic areas of the complex there was evidence of disregard for religious norms. Catholic priests said that some Bibles were torn up for toilet paper, and many valuable sacramental objects were removed. "Palestinians took candelabra, icons and anything that looked like gold," said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico. |
| Posted by:ed |
| #6 Newsweak oughta go look at the Yahoo! News slideshow on the Middle East Conflict. Dozens of pix today of Hamas Paleos holding up Korans and burning US flags. Thanks for nothing. |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2005-05-13 19:52 |
| #5 Newsweak and truth in the same sentence...now that's a reall hoot. GI's and Marines further endangered ...not a problem for Newsweak....as long as it sells more copy. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2005-05-13 19:40 |
| #4 who cares if it is respected? The government shouldn't wouldn't that be kinda like having the ten commandements in the courtroom kinda situation? |
| Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 2005-05-13 16:57 |
| #3 The travesty of truth is laid bare at the foot of the Newsweek editor who allowed this story to go out the way it did. Shame on him/her for very poor journalistic judgement that once again shows the media's disdain for the security of our men and women in uniform. Unlike Eason's theory of targetting, this "is" a case of the media specifically targetting US troops. |
| Posted by: Jack is Back! 2005-05-13 14:36 |
| #2 The terrorists who took over the church were dealt with very effectively by IDF long gunners using a remote weapon mounted atop a crane 200 meters away. It was credited with solving the siege. We help where we can. |
| Posted by: remoteman 2005-05-13 12:57 |
| #1 Gen. Myers told reporters in Washington that Army Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, the head of U.S. Southern Command, has been in Guantanamo for the last couple of days digging into this issue to see if there was a time when the Koran was not respected. Why should this be a concern to the point of sending a general down there to poke around? If a Bible wasn't "respected", would the General Staff send some high-ranking officer down to Guantanamo to investigate? I would think not. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-05-13 10:26 |