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Guantanamo Log Details Saudi's Torture
2005-06-13
A Saudi held by the United States at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba on suspicion of terrorism, was forcibly injected with fluids, grilled in the proximity of military dogs and straddled by a female soldier, according to secret logs obtained by Time magazine.
Not quite the same as dying a glorious Islamic death and being served for all eternity by 72 doe-eyed virgins, is it?
Mohammed Al-Qahtani was forcibly injected with an undisclosed volume of fluids after refusing food and water in late 2002 at the Guantanamo camp, according to US interrogation logs obtained by Time and released yesterday. The logs — parts of which are incomplete — provide a detailed account of some of the measures used against a detainee at the prison, many of which have been harshly criticized by rights groups.
Luckily for those doing the criticizing, they weren't where al-Qatahni could get to them to kill them...
Al-Qahtani was captured fleeing Tora Bora, Afghanistan in December 2001 and transported to Guantanamo two months later, Time said.
So he's obviously innocent as a babe, pure as the driven snow, his poop smelling of attar of roses. It's not like Tora Bora was a battle fought with Arab mad-dog killers in a desperate attempt to shield their Fearless Leader while he flew the coop, leaving them in the lurch...
US authorities subsequently discovered he was deported from Florida in August 2001 and believe he had sought entry to America to participate in the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Time said.
But he stunk so loudly even the 9-10 INS turned him away...
The logs detail how Al-Qahtani was interrogated for 50 days from early November to early January 2002-2003, during which 16 additional interrogation methods were approved by US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Pretty hard core, was he? And what terrible things happened to him?
Often woken at 4 a.m. and probed until midnight, Al-Qahtani was forced to stand or sit on a chair, shown pictures of 9/11 victims, and told he could not pray.
Poor Babykins didn't get his beauty sleep, huh? Gee, golly. I feel for him. I used to hate it when I had long days like that when I was in the Army. Of course, I didn't have to look at pictures of people my cohorts had murdered, so maybe that was what made it so much easier to take. Not that it was nearly as hard as jumping from the 85th floor of a burning building...
At one point, Al-Qahtani mounts a food and water strike and becomes so dehydrated that medical corpsmen "forcibly administer fluids by IV (intravenous) drip." After a struggle, the Saudi is restrained, strapped down and "given an undisclosed amount of fluids," according to Time.
I'd guess it was enough to keep him from croaking himself through dehydration. Hopefully, it was administered with the dullest IV needle they could find, by the most thumb-fingered tech available.
Al-Qahtani subsequently tells his interrogators he works for Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden, before urinating in his pants.
I think we noticed he worked for al-Qaeda and Binny when we picked him up at Tora Bora. But peeing himself will look good on his resume.
After Rumsfeld approved the new interrogation measures on Dec. 2, 2002, he was subjected to a drill known as an "Invasion of Space by a Female."
Oh, no! Not a Female! I'll bet she had nice tits, too. Oh, the humanity!
"He was laid out on the floor so I straddled him without putting my weight on him. He would then attempt to move me off him by bending his legs in order to lift me off but this failed because the MPs were holding his legs down with their hands," one log entry states.
Got him so hot and bothered, he prob'ly had to go back and spank his monkey and put toothpaste up his butt...
On Dec. 7, Al-Qahtani's condition deteriorated so badly that he was not interrogated for 24-hours. Over the next month Al-Qahtani — after his condition improves — is stripped naked, told to bark like a dog and pictures of scantily clad women are hung around his neck. The logs recount Al-Qahtani saying he wants to commit suicide.
"No, jerkwad. You can't commit suicide until we tell you you can commit suicide!"
He was probed in the presence of a military dog, but "no details are given beyond a hazy reference to a disagreement between the military police and the dog handler," Time said.
Hey, Time! If you're reading this, it doesn't bother me a bit. If the tick wanted good treatment, he should have sung. And if he didn't want to go to Gitmo he should have stayed home in Arabia. Instead, he went tromping out with the other lords of creation, lording it over the natives and hollering "Death to the Great Satan." He bought the Islamic story, so now he can live with the consequences, which include us laughing at him while he pees his pants. As far as I'm concerned, he should be dead.
Posted by:Fred

#34  What is this shit?
Posted by: someone   2005-06-13 00:01  

#33  Of course Old Spook can't comment. He's much to dainty. (Would you like some decaffinated tea (it's too late for the regular stuff) to go with that belly laugh, OS dear?)
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-06-13 22:17  

#32  As far as I'm concerned, he should be dead.

They should all be dead.
Posted by: WITT   2005-06-13 21:31  

#31  Spook knows! Spook knows!
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-13 21:05  

#30  The control of seratonin uptake works fairly well in theory. Its the basis for several alleged "non-violent/non-harmful" interrogation adjuncts.

As for it being used in Gitmo for "behavior modification"? I would not be at liberty to comment even if I did know.

There is "need to know", but then there are some things you simply dont want to know, at least until after some others know - and well after the fact.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-06-13 20:38  

#29  I'm OK on all of it but the Christina Aguilera music. A civilized nation must have some limits.
Posted by: Formerly Dan   2005-06-13 19:40  

#28  Personally I prefer The Pear.

Why not? No matter what we do the MSM will it horrible torture anyway so why not go for broke?

(P.S. Kidding -- I wouldnt wish the Pear on anyone.... well ok... perhaps Al-Zak and OBL...)
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-06-13 19:28  

#27  Wheeler-sertonin?

Don't know. AB's trapped in some cathouse so I'll wait for the answer.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-06-13 19:06  

#26  No - Thx, UA!

Hmmm. I'd always thought that chocolate contained serotonin... Time for some noodling around, lol!

Life is the search for endorphins...
Posted by: .com   2005-06-13 18:16  

#25  just out of curiosity... has anyone heard of this method?
wheeler-serotonin

not that I'm against the medieval approach, but wringing him (completely) dry first is the priority, right?
Posted by: Uniger Anginesh2724   2005-06-13 18:05  

#24  I am now convinced more than ever that journalists at Time, Newsweek, NYT, WaPo, LAT, etc. are idiots.

You're just now convinced of this?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-06-13 16:01  

#23  I am now convinced more than ever that journalists at Time, Newsweek, NYT, WaPo, LAT, etc. are idiots. If they think that this kind of story based on this interrogation log is going to make us all run to the UN and ask forgiveness or worse rescind our votes and have Kerry take over they are nuts. What it does is make it more apparent that ever that we are not doing ENOUGH tough stuff to get these murdering sobs to cough up the goods (as Cagney would say). But then it also wouldn't suprise me that Time wrote this story for their Internationale readers and not us moronic, rightwing, rednecks here in Amerika!
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2005-06-13 15:04  

#22  A double barreled shot-gun? Infidel Tom shows an unexpected merciful-side.
Posted by: Farmers General   2005-06-13 14:48  

#21  We should allow Al-Qahtani to fulfill his destiny and desire. Namely, being aboard an airplane as it crashes into a building.

So the next time we locate a bad-guy hangout in Iraq we strap Al-Qahtani unto a drone and fast-track him to virginville. Works for me, and him too I'm sure.
Posted by: Justrand   2005-06-13 13:18  

#20  This leaves me very disappointed with Rumsfeld. I was thinking more along the lines of shoving a double-barreled shotgun in Al-Qahtani's mouth and playing Gitmo roulette until the game was over by default.
Posted by: Tom   2005-06-13 13:09  

#19  â€œInvasion of Space by a Female” ? I think I saw that on the Sci-Fi channel...

Naah, it was on the Lifetime Channel ...
Posted by: Steve White   2005-06-13 12:13  

#18  I've got a one-sound solution:

BANG!
Posted by: Fred   2005-06-13 11:23  

#17  

An instrument of torture to offend all Muslim sensibilities...

Her mother must be so proud...


Posted by: BigEd   2005-06-13 11:19  

#16  I'd favor a one-word solution for this butt-nugget:

Rendition.

See how he likes it.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-06-13 10:56  

#15  â€œInvasion of Space by a Female” ? I think I saw that on the Sci-Fi channel...and it DID make me want to confess to all sorts of crimes. So if they forced this poor bastard to watch it...repeatedly, then yeah, that's torture.

I could be confusing it with "Barbarella" though.
Posted by: Justrand   2005-06-13 10:41  

#14  That asshole is lucky I wasnt doing the interrogation. He'd be wearing a colostomy bag and breathing with the aid of a machine, however we would have alot more info from him. If giving him IV fluids because he wouldnt eat and having a woman straddle him is the worst that they did to him I am ashamed of the army.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2005-06-13 10:38  

#13  Oh my God! Straddled by a female soldier? Last time that happened to me (weeping) I had to marry that soldier (tears flowing). Like me that poor bastard probably never saw it coming.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-13 10:30  

#12  You should see what Lileks did to this article:

And at one point the reader might assume that if something really bad had happened, we might have read about it by now. I know a little bit about modern journalism, and we tend to emphasis the splintery plunger up the butt over the mocking puppet show. In any case, this detail makes you almost want to weep in frustration; domestic politicians are posturing for the camera, huffing about then horrors of Gitmo, insisting that the rest of the world won’t forgive us until we close the joint down and pave it. Over what? A Punch and Judy show? If we gang-mimed the guy and had 17 men in striped shirts with white makeup pantomime falling out of a burning skyscraper, would the critics demand we not only let the guy go but pay him a per diem for his troubles? I’ve read the story twice, and I keep wondering if I missed the part where the suspected 20th hijacker spits teeth into a chamberpot rimming with own bloody urine while massaging the welts the jumper cables left on his groinal division. I mean, I take all that for granted, because our soldiers are all killbot brutes - except for the lower-class ones who got drafted against their will and can only hope Bruce Springsteen sings a monotonal account of their disaffection.

Puppet shows and secret code / I don’t know who to trust / I’m the metaphorical twin of old Tom Joad / inasmuch as we both dealt with dust / his was the kind that got in your eyes / mine gets in your gun / but they both get down deep in your soul / whaddya mean, sing “Born to Run”?

He is taken to a new interrogation booth, which is decorated with pictures of 9/11 victims, American flags and red lights. He has to stand for the playing of the U.S. national anthem.

Okay, this is torture. But only if you’re interrogating a poster on the Democratic Underground.
Posted by: Mike   2005-06-13 10:18  

#11  Secret logs obtained by Time magazine? Oooookay....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-06-13 10:08  

#10  This is the sort of nonsensical bullshit you put up with from lying Jihadi's when you let those miserable pieces of shit walk out of there alive.
Of course all self hating Americans, the MSM, the dhimmi's and Euro's will continue to buy this horeshit lock, stock and barrel, undermining the war effort.
Solve the problem by shooting these scumbags the moment intellegence believes they've been tapped for all they know.

Posted by: JerseyMike   2005-06-13 10:07  

#9  Fixed now...
Posted by: Fred   2005-06-13 10:05  

#8  My bad. The sink trap is clogged right now; hang on whilst I call a plumber ...
Posted by: Steve White   2005-06-13 09:42  

#7  Whoa, hold on, someone - don't bail - your comment was obviously misunderstood.

Eds - You pulled the trigger on a Good Guy!
Posted by: .com   2005-06-13 09:35  

#6  I'm a troll now? Every day brings a new surprise. Guess my three years here are done.
Posted by: someone   2005-06-13 03:49  

#5  nise fred. but itn wurse then yoo thawt. see this?:

CHRISTINA AGUILERA MUSIC USED AS TORTURE IN GITMO
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-06-13 00:56  

#4  This treatment sounds like a normal Saturday in 'Frisco.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-13 00:46  

#3  Fred's in rare form tonight.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-13 00:43  

#2  As far as I'm concerned, he should be dead.
You'll get no argument from me in that regard. What's the point of warehousing these folks? Just kill jihadists, forget about interrogations and giving them 3 square meals a day courtesy of the US taxpayer. How much intel do we get for the most part, as opposed to bad publicity and high maintenance costs? And by bad publicity costing us, I don't mean with the ACLU or the US Law Society. I mean with our erstwhile Muslim dominated countries, like Pakistan, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, etc. I think those countries are helpful for the most part, but when our own traitorous MSM (eg. Izakoff) focus on Gitmo "abuses" it makes life difficult for folks like Mushareff to stay on board. Gitmo is more trouble than it's worth IMO.
Posted by: Thotch Glesing2372   2005-06-13 00:34  

#1  What is this shit?
Posted by: someone   2005-06-13 00:01  

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