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Bin Laden may be in Iran
2005-06-13
Some within the U.S. intelligence community think Osama bin Laden is in eastern Iran, instead of the rugged tribal areas of Pakistan's northwestern frontier, where most American officials think he is still on the run.
Golly. What a new theory! Dan, did you ever imagine such a thing?
U.S. officials said in interviews that the Iran theory, which is held by a minority, is based on bits of intelligence information and the fact that months of CIA intelligence operations, along with search-and-destroy sweeps by thousands of Pakistani troops, have failed to find the al Qaeda leader or his No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri. Asked whether the U.S. intelligence community thinks bin Laden may be in Iran, a senior administration official told The Washington Times, "Some people think he is."
Do a little better than that. Some people think the world is flat or that Al Franken is funny... Wait. I'm not too sure about that last statement.
That source said there is great frustration, especially within the inner circle around Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, that bin Laden has not been caught or even unequivocally spotted in Pakistan's border region. The frustration is fueling speculation that bin Laden may not be there after all.
Wotta surprise.
Rep. Curt Weldon, Pennsylvania Republican and House Armed Services Committee member, writes in his new book, "Countdown to Terror," that a reliable Iranian source he identifies only as "Ali" told him that bin Laden has been in Iran for some time.
"Ali," huh? I'da used "Mahmoud," myself.
"The course of world events have established incontrovertibly that Ali is a high credible source of reliable intelligence on Iranian and other terrorist activities," Mr. Weldon writes.
So's Mahmoud. Nobody better, by golly. What's the real intel show? Or do you only have what somebody told you over drinks at the golf course?
But the Bush administration's official position is that bin Laden is most likely in the border region straddling Pakistan and Afghanistan and that he is hidden by tribal allies. "The consensus is that bin Laden remains in the border region," said a U.S. intelligence official.
Could be, I suppose. The concensus used to be that he was dead.
Asked about reports that bin Laden is in Iran, which borders both Pakistan and Afghanistan, the official said, "That would be a big risk for the Iranians. ... There are all kinds of rumors that these guys go in and out of Iran, but that always struck me as odd."
Today's troll's expecting us to whack Iran over it's nuclear program. It's just as likely we'll whach Iran over sheltering bin Laden & Sons, Inc.
Bin Laden lived near Kandahar, Afghanistan, the Taliban cultural headquarters, until the 2001 U.S. invasion. He moved north to the Tora Bora mountain range, then slipped across the border into Pakistan.
My guess is that he went to Fazl's guest house. He got a shave and a haircut and changed his turban and curly-toed slippers. From there he went to Lahore to say hello to Hamid Gul, then took a boat from Karachi to Yemen, and probably into Assir province of Soddy Arabia, where he hung out with family until the heat died down. At some point, according to his cook, he went to Chechnya, but I imagine that was just for a state visit to Khattab and didn't last very long. Getting caught by the Russers would have been uncomfortably terminal and getting caught in Azerbaijan would have been nearly so. Now, that story may or may not be true in overview or detail, but I have at least as much evidence to back it up as Welcon does.
Gone are the heady predictions of early 2004, when the U.S. command in Afghanistan predicted bin Laden would be killed or captured by year's end. No commander is making such predictions now, and privately, some officers say the trail has gone cold.
Yeah, I'd say so. You could cool your beer with that trail. But precisely because of that, I suspect he's in either Iran or in Assir, with Iran the more likely, since the couriers were heading in that direction when they got stopped in Iraq.
Bush administration officials have accused Iran, a U.S.-designated sponsor of terrorism, of harboring al Qaeda lieutenants who escaped from Afghanistan in 2001.
Iran owns Lebanese Hezbollah, as well as its domestic Hezbollah and, apparently, Soddy Hezbollah. It finances Islamic Jihad as well. Even though it's a Mooselimb Brotherhood mob, it kicks in to support Hamas. To me that's 3+2 terror organizations Iran sponsors, before we get into the minor leaguers like PFLP-GC.
The administration has stopped short of providing the names of the al Qaeda fugitives or suggesting that bin Laden is among them.
Rumor had it that Suleiman Abu Gheith was in custody in Iran, and that Seif al-Adel and Saad bin Laden were both operating from within the country. And then there's Zark...
The U.S. also has intelligence that Abu Musab Zarqawi, who heads al Qaeda in Iraq, has slipped in and out of Iran since 2003 to evade capture. Officials say that is why Mr. Rumsfeld and the new Iraqi government have publicly warned Iraq's neighbors not to take in Zarqawi, whom Islamic Web sites say was wounded and needed medical care.
And that sort of thing will provide a casus belli, if Bush prefers...
Washington thinks one of bin Laden's sons as well as a top operations chief are in Iran. Iran denies harboring al Qaeda, but has said it has arrested and detained some members.
Like Sully, presumably. We haven't heard a peep out of him that I've noticed since he warned us to "fasten our seatbelts" three years ago almost to the day.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#5  WITT, I agree with you. I just pray to my God (unfortunely the one that let's you pee on his own symbol, without killing people in my own belief), that he's either killed this a hole, or let's us do it soon.
Posted by: plainslow   2005-06-13 22:20  

#4  I am sick and tired of hearing about some jerk in DC telling us idiots in the hinterland about how Bin Laden is hiding out in some region of the world that is completely inaccessible to us. (Duh, we've been to the moon already...) Bin Laden is either being protected by somebody or we don't have the faintest clue about where he is.
Posted by: WITT   2005-06-13 21:05  

#3  Given his past participation in a pogrom against Shia civilians, Bin Laden would not be safe in Iran.
The Shia are waiting for revenge. It was a Shia airman who brought down General Zia Ul Haq's plane (in retaliation for the pogrom he ordered, executed by Bin Laden and Pakistani SSG troops).

Bin Laden is not on the Pak-Afghan border?
This is not news.
My money is on Rawalpindi cantonment
Posted by: Glomolet Spomort2846   2005-06-13 18:17  

#2  Whoa! Fredman goes deep!
Posted by: Shipman   2005-06-13 17:31  

#1  I had often thought that OBL was in Iran over the past several years as it is one of the few countries that would harbor him, and where he could continue his activities safely under the protection of State security services.
Posted by: Brett   2005-06-13 17:22  

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