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U.N. Officials Seek Guantanamo Bay Visit
2005-06-24
U.N. human rights investigators, citing "persistent and credible" reports of torture at the U.S. base in Guantanamo Bay, urged the United States on Thursday to allow them to check conditions there. The failure of the United States to respond to requests since early 2002 is leading the experts to conclude Washington has something to hide at the Cuban base, said Manfred Nowak, a specialist on torture and a professor of human rights law in Vienna, Austria. "At a certain point, you have to take well-founded allegations as proven in the absence of a clear explanation by the government," Nowak said. However, he added: "We are not making a judgment if torture or treatment under degrading conditions has taken place."
No, no. Certainly not.
Posted by:Fred

#14  Interesting theory, Mr Nowak. So, if some group of people say something often enough it must be true?

Funny, but I remember all the adults telling me there was a Santa when I was little. They were pretty persistent about it, and, not knowing any better, I thought it was credible. They also told me that if I didn't start behaving, Santa would find out and take away all my toys. Santa didn't answer my rather pointed letter regarding toy confiscation when I was five, either. I'm sure I put enough postage on the letter, because Mom yelled at me later for using up her stamps. All the while I saw really cool TV shows that definitely showed a Santa, with his collaborators Rudolph & Frosty. The closest I ever got to an official government statement on the matter was from my teachers. They agreed with my parents.

Therefore, I guess Santa exists?

Nah, didn't think so.

Nice 21st century adaptation of Hitler's "big lie" theory, though. I must give the specialist his props for that one.

(I'd give him even more props if he came out and said all he really wants is a tropical vacation at US expense, preferably during the cold winter months, after the holiday sales are over....natch. Yeah, I'm cynical, and still not over the Santa crap. ;) )
Posted by: Desert Blondie   2005-06-24 19:20  

#13  I think we should let them visit.

As inmates.

They'd fit right in with the rest of the clowns there who want to destroy America.

And make sure to give them korans. Especially if they're not moslems.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-06-24 15:24  

#12  jackal - good point that has been completely ignored by the intellectuals in our beloved press.
Posted by: 2b   2005-06-24 14:26  

#11  Sure, we'll let you inspect. Give us a couple days to get a banquet spread laid out and some underaged girls for your bedrooms. Meanwhile, why don't you take a tour around the rest of Cuba and inspect the prisons there?
Posted by: Jackal   2005-06-24 13:29  

#10  Strangely, it is consistent, Cap'n - consistently anti-American.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-24 12:30  

#9  It's funny, if the U.S. won't let them into Guantanamo, they say they'll be forced to conclude we're hiding something. But when Saddam wouldn't let us inspect his sensitive sites, they were forced to conclude that he was concerned about upholding the independence and national dignity of Iraq. I guess that's a consistent position.
Posted by: Captain Pedantic   2005-06-24 12:25  

#8  First, they can't get into any of those other places, either.

Second, even if they did, why would they believe it was anything but a setup? So it's a waste of thyme.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-24 10:17  

#7  In that case just tell them there's no underage kids in GITMO.....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-06-24 09:17  

#6  Just tell them regardless of the menu listed in the press, there are no five star restaurants and no double parking at Gitmo. Besides all they have to do is ask ICRC what's up cause they've already been there on the ground for a while. Dining in Geneva or Gitmo? There's no first class to Gitmo either. Easy choice boys.
Posted by: Cleger Cromosing1705   2005-06-24 09:15  

#5  Perhaps after the U.N. visits the *real* Gulags of North Korea and China.

They can bring Turban Durban with them (and leave him there for a few weeks -- to do a congressional investigation...)
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-06-24 09:02  

#4  Overdone Rice Pilaf is not torture, however it is a crime.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-06-24 08:38  

#3  Wonder if the report's already been written?
Posted by: tu3031   2005-06-24 08:35  

#2  Complete and total bullshit. No matter of how deserving those animals are of being shot, they are treated with kid gloves.
Funny how the UN couldn't give a shit about torture chambers in Cuba, or China, or genocide in Zimbabwae or any of the true horrors being imposed on defenseless civilians at countless places in the world - but when the US locks up un-uniformed combatants (who should have been shot on the battlefield BTW) they begin to shout of abuses and torture.
FU.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2005-06-24 07:34  

#1  I'd bet that a slightly overdone rice pilaf would be considered turture by the UN mooks. Give 'em the raspberry...
Posted by: PBMcL   2005-06-24 01:39  

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