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Lawmakers: Guantanamo Conditions Improve
2005-06-26
During a tour of the U.S. prison for suspected terrorists on Saturday, House Republicans and Democrats, including one who has advocated closing the facility, said the United States has made progress in improving conditions and protecting detainees' rights. The U.S. lawmakers witnessed interrogations, toured cellblocks and ate the same lunch given to detainees on the first congressional visit to the prison for suspected terrorists since criticism of it intensified in the spring. A Senate delegation also was visiting this weekend. "The Guantanamo we saw today is not the Guantanamo we heard about a few years ago," said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif.
There wasn't a Camp X-Ray or Camp Delta a few years ago. And even when first built the camps were better, and tried the inmates better, than your average federal pen ...
Still, lawmakers from both parties agree more still must be done to ensure an adequate legal process is in place to handle detainee cases. In the meantime, said Rep. Joe Schwarz, R-Mich., "I think they're doing the best they can to define due process here." Republicans and Democrats alike fear the prison at the U.S. Navy base in eastern Cuba is hurting the United States' image because of claims that interrogators have abused and tortured inmates. The White House and Pentagon say conditions are humane and detainees are well-treated. Lawmakers wanted to see for themselves.

After getting a classified briefing from base commanders, the House delegation ate lunch with troops — the same meal of chicken with orange sauce, rice and okra that detainees were served. They then toured several of the barbed-wire camps where detainees are housed, viewing small cells, dusty recreation yards and common areas. From behind one-way mirrors, lawmakers watched interrogators grilling three individual terror suspects. None of the interrogators touched detainees. In one session, they questioned a man who defense officials said was a Saudi national and admitted al-Qaida member who was picked up in Afghanistan and knew nine of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers. In another, a female interrogator took an unusual approach to wear down a detainee, reading a Harry Potter book aloud for hours. He turned his back and put his hands over his ears.
Harry Potter? They're reading pretty quality infidel literature to these guys. They could learn English with Harry Potter.
At a communal camp for those given privileges because of good behavior, bearded detainees in white frocks, flip-flops and skull caps quietly lingered near lawmakers, although from behind fences. Later, the detainees played soccer. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, is one of many Democrats who have called for an independent commission to investigate abuse allegations and have said the facility should close. She said she stood by that position, but acknowledged, "What we've seen here is evidence that we've made progress." The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., questioned the criteria for determining when a detainee can be released. "Perhaps the standard's been too liberal," he said, noting that some of those released have returned to the battlefield.
Sheila Lee must have had cramps the whole trip, not being able to believe what she was seeing with her own eyes ...
Posted by:Fred

#13  I think they sent the telephone cleaning people and accounts first to set things up? Why not send the Democrats and LLL first and let them start on that utopia they are always talking about.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-26 16:00  

#12  That'd be the "B" Ark, CS - assuming you're into the HGG*.

* Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Posted by: .com   2005-06-26 10:37  

#11  I think we should begin trips to Mars and send every Dem that wants to go!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-26 10:22  

#10  Jackson Lee is the one who wants us to return on a manned trip to Mars. Stupid b*tch. Tauscher is no better. Intellectual dimbulbs on a Pelosi-like level
Posted by: Frank G   2005-06-26 10:07  

#9  good catch bobby.
Posted by: 2b   2005-06-26 09:03  

#8  And here's the answer, guys, right in the article - "'The Guantanamo we saw today is not the Guantanamo we heard about a few years ago,' said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif."

We heard about. Close it becasue of what we heard about. So this is like the Koran-flushing article - we heard about it and reacted as if it were fact. Morons.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-26 09:01  

#7  That's a GOOD question swiss tex!
Posted by: 2b   2005-06-26 08:50  

#6  I wonder how many of these representatives had been there before to be able to compare?
Posted by: SwissTex   2005-06-26 08:01  

#5  sigh. Not to flog a very dead horse, but the title of this article really ticks me off.

Talk about democrats getting the opportunity to make lemonaide from lemons. First. the title of the article simply accepts the premise that Guantanamo was in need of improvement, without question.

And second, what really ticks me, is that this allows these Dems a fine out from the very deserved fallout they were facing for trumpeting that Guantanamo was a "gulag".

So what we are left with from this article is that Guantanmo used to be sooooo bad, but now it is better. The Dems can quietly exit stage left on this issue without being held responsible for their outrageous remarks.

Damn, these guys are good.
Posted by: 2b   2005-06-26 05:28  

#4  Lesson to Tauscher and Jackson Lee: Know what the hell your talking about before opening your pie hole. What a couple of jerk offs (in a figurative sense).
Posted by: Captain America   2005-06-26 02:28  

#3  Torture, indeed. Just think, a chance to catch up on the backlog of reading material we all accumulate. I'm jealous. Our interrogators will be the most erudite, scholarly, versant and urbane thumb-twisters anywhere. Of course, they already are...
Posted by: .com   2005-06-26 01:55  

#2  Thriling Clung4463, I might keep that!
Posted by: Red Dog aka th4463   2005-06-26 01:42  

#1  In another, a female interrogator took an unusual approach to wear down a detainee, reading a Harry Potter book aloud for hours. He turned his back and put his hands over his ears.
He probabally started gettin into the story line and realized he was enjoying it...VERY VERY Halaal, bad hadji..very bad hadji!

Posted by: Thriling Clung4463   2005-06-26 01:36  

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