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| Ward Churchill defends frag remarks | |||
| 2005-06-30 | |||
| Controversial University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill says he does not advocate "fragging" U.S. military officers in spite of how recent comments he made have been portrayed. "Conscientious objection removes a given piece of the cannon fodder from the fray," he said. "Fragging an officer has a much more impactful effect."
Reached at his home in Boulder County on Wednesday night, Churchill said the comments were made merely to spark discussion and not to take a position on fragging, which is the killing or injuring of an officer in combat by a subordinate.
He said that his remarks were being taken out of context and sensationalized in an effort to drive him from his job as a CU professor. "I neither advocated nor suggested to anyone, anything," Churchill said. "I asked them to think about where they stood on things." According to the tape, Churchill, while speaking about being a conscientious objector, asked his audience: "Would you render the same support to someone who hadn't conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?" When one of the forum's attendees said that the impact such a fragging might have on the officer's family should be considered, Churchill replied, "How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann's family?" Eichmann, Eichmann, this beauzeau IS a one-note samba. Apologies to any sheet music that got offended. Churchill said Wednesday night that he found it "interesting" that he spoke for more than two hours that night and that a few remarks were "spun out of context." What he meant by the remarks, he said, was: "Think about what you're talking about and what you're doing. Think, in other words. ... If we can all take a deep breath, I'm not talking to a roomful of troops. Nobody in that room is going to frag an officer. ... I didn't tell anyone in that room to do a damn thing except think." There have been calls for Churchill's removal as a tenured professor at the state school, and the university has launched an investigation into his academic activities. One slap on the wrist, coming up. Churchill has been accused of plagiarism, academic fraud and misrepresenting his Native American heritage. He is under investigation by the school's Standing Committee on Research Misconduct. CU interim chancellor Phil DiStefano could not be reached for comment Wednesday night.
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| Posted by:Korora |
| #15 but he's so much more fun as a hanging pinata. |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-06-30 21:40 |
| #14 Ward "Leroy" Churchill -- Chief-Stepped-in-Bull |
| Posted by: Omavitch Cravitch1380 2005-06-30 21:21 |
| #13 America is being compared to the Nazis from the Senate floor for the crime of treating our enemies in detention better than we treat our Marine recruits in training. The dictionary defines "sedition" as "speech or action promoting discontent or rebellion against a government." Title 18 of the U.S. Code Chapter 115 is titled, "Treason, Sedition and Subversive Activities." Title 18 defines "treason" as follows: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death. Start carrying out the sentance!! Shoot the treasonist Bastard... |
| Posted by: jimgoism 2005-06-30 20:23 |
| #12 I didn't tell anyone in that room to do a damn thing except think. Those who can't do, teach. |
| Posted by: VAMark 2005-06-30 20:10 |
| #11 SH: Jeebus! *Visual Alert*! |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-06-30 19:04 |
| #10 Wasn't Ward an armed robber at one point? By his reasoning every crackhead is a revolutionary when he holds up a Seven 11. The trick is just to develop a bogus rationale for why the victim is a nazi and add some footnotes. His gig only works in free societies. Real nazis would have publically executed him the first time he made a peep against the governement. Well, maybe that's not accurate. Churchill biggest sin is projection.If the Nazis took over tomorrow he might be their Eichman, but he would have to Jello-wrestle Michael Moore for the honor. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2005-06-30 17:56 |
| #9 Where the hell is Sihran Sihran when you need him? |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2005-06-30 16:13 |
| #8 Ward Churchill : Big Chief A Little Woody |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-06-30 15:25 |
| #7 More Slipspeak from another learned idiot. He was not advocating just throwing about idearz and saying what people have said you know? Only wanted to spark discussion eh? |
| Posted by: Tkat 2005-06-30 15:20 |
| #6 hmmm, may explain why his student ratings were down this past semester |
| Posted by: Jan 2005-06-30 14:55 |
| #5 He is under investigation by the school's Standing Committee on Research Misconduct. No one needs to make an effort to take "his remarks ... out of context and sensationalized in an effort to drive him from his job as a CU professor." |
| Posted by: Bobby 2005-06-30 14:12 |
| #4 Going to go down as one of the great con artists of the early 21st century. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-06-30 14:09 |
| #3 Just using his own 'logic' - if it's OK to frag leaders, i wonder if he would take exception to his own demise? |
| Posted by: Rawsnacks 2005-06-30 13:07 |
| #2 "How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann's family?" Quite right, tu3031. This obsession with Eichmann is especially old. Reinforcing the idea that, left to his own devices, he doesn't have on original thought in his head. |
| Posted by: Xbalanke 2005-06-30 13:01 |
| #1 Ward, the act's getting old. You're starting to bore me. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2005-06-30 12:54 |