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Afghanistan/South Asia
Indo-US defence pact bothers Pakistan
2005-07-02
Does it? That's funny. It doesn't bother me a bit.
Posted by:Fred

#18  fraught with danger

I call it feeding the hyenas
Posted by: Frank G   2005-07-02 23:39  

#17  The PAF is making noises about AMRAAM.

I would not be surprised if they get it.

Object of some in the US Gov't is to provide Pak with enough weaponry that they begin to feel secure wrt India. Thinking seems to be that a secure Pak will be more amenable to making peace in Kashmir and finally tackling the Islamists.

Needless to say, this strategy of arming Pak is fraught with danger.

Posted by: john   2005-07-02 22:47  

#16  John, what kinda BVR missile? Don't think they're getting AMRAAM, and I'm not certain if a Sparrow works from an F-16?
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-02 22:36  

#15  John, I think you must have one of those special T1+ lines, either that or you know someone at the phone co. (Pak-Bell)
Posted by: Red Dog   2005-07-02 22:04  

#14  Pakistanis are quite ungrateful.

US military aid has provided various weapon systems that will neutralize any Indian conventional advantage

6 C-130E Refurbished Hercules
26 Jetranger helicopters
Tactical Radios
Training in heliborne night operations
(to counter any Indian ops in Kashmir)

40 Cobra helicopters
2,000 TOW missiles,
(To deal with Indian Army T72 tanks)

5 Aerostat radars
(for looking deep into India)

155mm Howitzers
6 AN/TPS-77 radars plus Command & Control software
(for counter battery fire on Indian artillery)

8 P-3C Refurbished & Upgraded Orions
6 Phalanx CIWS,
60 Harpoon missiles,
(to deal with the Indian Navy)

300 Sidewinder missiles,
75 F-16s (with advanced BVR missiles and PGM capability)
(to deal with the Indian air force)
Posted by: john   2005-07-02 21:19  

#13  Pakiwakiland understands why we did this. The Indians & ChiComs are in bed together, so it is only logical to jump in bed with them.

Alliances are not always for alliance but a simbiotic use and exploitation of each other on a gentleman's level. Makes for great PR too.

We only sucked up to the Pakis during the cold war to help build an electronic surveillance fence around the USSR.

We sucked up to the Pakis while the USSR was bogged down in Afghanistan to help get stingers and other assistance to the mujidhadeen fighting the Soviets. Payback for Vietnam? Who cares.

We only sucked up to Pakiwakiland after 9-11 to help squash the ape-like Taliban being used by Pakiwakiland to keep the Northwest Frontier Province and other areas somewhat stable.

Pakiwakiland knows this and should stop sobbing... hell didn't we just sell them some more fighter aircraft?
Posted by: Ebbolutle Glomoter8655   2005-07-02 21:10  

#12  :> TW. Good manners is important. One of my Great Aunts kept all her calling cards from gentlemen friends until she shuffled off (in style), a fine collection.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-02 20:34  

#11  Perv, since you can't find Osama, coming soon to a city near you...
Posted by: john   2005-07-02 19:50  

#10  No Minutemen III, we don't know you that well. You may however leave a card, and call on Sunday aftertnoon.

Shipman -- too funny! Were you planning on serving English tea or chai when they come to call?
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-07-02 18:45  

#9  lol, Jackal! "Uh, yes, this is India calling, can you patch me through to GE?"

"Yes, sir. We here at GE are here to help. How are you all enjoying your new boats?"
Posted by: BA   2005-07-02 16:14  

#8  OP-
Agree with you wholeheartedly that at CV might be a good idea, but the operating cost is a real problem. Let's go with Ship's suggestion and expand on it a bit: some OHP frigates and as many of the VLS Spruances we can rustle up. With the SLCM capability the Sprucans can provide, ol' Perv ought to have a lot of sleepless nights.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2005-07-02 16:11  

#7  Sure, several of the oil-burners (Ranger, JFK, Saratoga) should be available. We've pretty much gone all-nuke for our CVs.

Plus it would be ironic that they would need to call the USA for tech support.
Posted by: Jackal   2005-07-02 15:29  

#6  Or license the engines and other essentials for local manufacture.
Posted by: mojo   2005-07-02 14:30  

#5  They would have had the LCA to replace the Mig-21's, if Clinton hadn't decided to cut off their supply of engines.

My suggestion: they buy a parts stockpile for whatever they get, to ride out the next change-of-administration.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-07-02 14:07  

#4  Don't we have a carrier we plan to decommission? I think it would make a great addition to the Indian navy. Of course, we'll give Japan and Taiwan first offers, but I doubt they'll wish to make that kind of purchase - at least, not right now. Yep, India has cash, and the US has some obsolescent weapons systems that would be first-line in India. Sounds good to me!
Posted by: Old Patriot   2005-07-02 14:00  

#3  No Minutemen III, we don't know you that well. You may however leave a card, and call on Sunday aftertnoon.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-02 13:46  

#2  LPH? LSDs? Sure why not. They're kinda manpower intensive, but hey, maybe that not a problem you have.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-02 13:45  

#1  It bothers me than India is stuck with Mig-21 widow makers when they could have high quality Super Hornets. It's not right. I'm haveing trouble sleeping at night. You guys set for General Purpose frigates? We gottem several low hour OHP Class for the right country.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-02 13:44  

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