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Britain
Statement claiming London attacks
2005-07-07
The BBC has located an Islamist website that has published a 200-word statement issued by an organisation saying it carried out the London bombings. The organisation calls itself the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda of Jihad Organisation in Europe. The group not previously been heard of. The website has previously carried statements purporting to be from al-Qaeda. It is not possible to verify such claims published on the web. This is the full text of the statement.

In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."

Jihadi planting season now open
Posted by:Steve

#59  Hey it was a sign off just like number 6! Wow! Is there anyway to block Belgariva Moron.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-07 19:15  

#58  You dumb puddle of pig feces ehbfv. Who the hell is screwing over Africa for money? Why it's the nations of Europe, their former colonial masters and exploiters. Those imperalists who left Africa in the state it's in, toss in the Arab islamifiers and slavers and you have the sorry state you have now.

The US never had a Colony in Africa. In fact the US has never had a colony anywhere. That one point of fact discounts anything you might have to say here. Get your head out of you pigs arse and wake up you fool. Be gone.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-07-07 18:50  

#57  Rantburg… A bunch of hypocritical jingoistic dipshits.

Support terrorism - oooh it came home - hate terrorism.

Fuck over Africa for cash – who cares

After 9 11 most IRA activity stops – who in the US said stop?

Use more than you produce – can’t go on forever – you will find out one day

Most Americans don’t know where Iraq even is – but they think it had a part in 9 11

Did Spain vote because of Madrid? No you stupid arrogant fuckers. Learn something about the situation in Spain; the People’s Party was not the party of the people. The Spanish are quite a pragmatic people and the bombs would have made little difference to the way they were feeling about the arrogant little shit in charge.

And on and on…

You can’t just think the world is here to pander to your whims. Learn from the past, look long term not just the next buck.

Dumb fucks

No more time to waste, just my 2 cents worth

Be seeing you…
Posted by: ehbfv   2005-07-07 18:00  

#56  Here PD use this on him.

ehbfv you are a useless git. Be gone and back to your buggery.

Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-07-07 17:58  

#55  English your second language, ehbfv?
Posted by: Pappy   2005-07-07 17:49  

#54  Lol! And you, pathetic imbecile that you are, stewing in your bile and terminally deranged, make a neanderthal killer like me look positively spiffy, thanx! Fuck off, asstard.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 17:26  

#53  petty ...

with kids shot dead

doesnt matter now as the turban heads are the baddies now eh - george says

bollocks - why are so many people in the uk sick of us policies

even crappy galloway made the senate look stupid
Posted by: ehbfv   2005-07-07 17:02  

#52  Ah - I was writing when you posted #49. Hmmm, sounds like you're not interested in reality, just pissin' and moanin'. Okay.

Got a bad case of BDS? Goooood, lol! I hope it's fatal.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 16:59  

#51  ehbfv - Would it make your brain explode to realize that the IRA funding you're talking about came from guys like Kerry and Kennedy? That the vast remainder of the US had no clue it was even going on?

IRA support is no different than contributing to Muzzy charities or paying zakat to some asshole imam who spews hate every Friday. You'll get no argument from me. Down in Texas we didn't think the IRA killers were romantic or heroic people fighting occupation - we knew them as murderers and terrorists.

The reason it lasted so long and was so costly in lives and property was the insistence on a mainly law enforcement approach - when it was actually a bona-fide guerilla war. The difference between the untapped Muzzy - the one who lets jihadis hide in his home or donates to their support - and the assholes who aided and abetted the IRA? None. Zero. Zilch.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 16:56  

#50  This is the game of footy where you put all petty enmities aside and concentrate on the larger foe. FFS.
Posted by: Howard UK   2005-07-07 16:54  

#49  speaking as someone who was bombed by the IRA in London.

american paid for...

who are the terrorists ??

memories are long - remember that !

go on george send in the troops... to the usa
Posted by: ehbfv   2005-07-07 16:53  

#48  In short, yes it did in conjunction with the "Real IRA's" senseless effort.
Posted by: DuhGaul   2005-07-07 16:50  

#47  erm... probly but i'm glad it did- speaking as someone who was bombed by the IRA in London.

Were you in there today? Then you know what we're up against you club-brained mugwump.
Posted by: Howard UK   2005-07-07 16:42  

#46  im a brit and i dont feel like correcting grammar so keep shut

you lot are so against terrorism, one question, before 9 11 whenthe ira were blowing the shit out of the uk what were a lot of americans doing ???

yes thats right giving the fuckers money and making excuses

did it take 9 11 to change views
Posted by: ehbfv   2005-07-07 16:32  

#45  Well said, Lh.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 16:29  

#44  "Your statement that you are an RB "moderate" and that you have some right to speak for moderates here is comical. I would not call you a moderate - and don't accept your assertion. Thus, what follows is flawed, IMO. You do use moderated language, but the content is liberal. Your defense of Levin, for example, was precious. He's just taking a different tack, he's not abandoning the game of Kennedy, et al. Pfeh. Nice try, though. BTW, your claim is called Prejudicial Language"

I didnt say Levin was my favorite Dem, hes not. Nor did I say I agreed with him. I stand by what i said about his statement.

I am of course a liberal on domestic matters - actually id say more of a new democrat with Social democrat tendencies, but that would be too confusing, so I go by this nick. But on the WOT ive been a consistent hawk, supporting OIF from day one, and defending it since. I even refused to vote for Kerry based on his Iraq stance.

All I am saying is not all of us who disagree on somethings are ubersensitive hippies. Some folks here are into "red meat" so to speak. Well just cause I like my meat well done, doesnt make me a vegetarian, if you get my drift. Or is that too nuanced an approach to cooking?

Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-07-07 16:25  

#43  "Your statement that you are an RB "moderate" and that you have some right to speak for moderates here is comical. I would not call you a moderate - and don't accept your assertion. Thus, what follows is flawed, IMO. You do use moderated language, but the content is liberal. Your defense of Levin, for example, was precious. He's just taking a different tack, he's not abandoning the game of Kennedy, et al. Pfeh. Nice try, though. BTW, your claim is called Prejudicial Language"

I didnt say Levin was my favorite Dem, hes not. Nor did I say I agreed with him. I stand by what i said about his statement.

I am of course a liberal on domestic matters - actually id say more of a new democrat with Social democrat tendencies, but that would be too confusing, so I go by this nick. But on the WOT ive been a consistent hawk, supporting OIF from day one, and defending it since. I even refused to vote for Kerry based on his Iraq stance.

All I am saying is not all of us who disagree on somethings are ubersensitive hippies. Some folks here are into "red meat" so to speak. Well just cause I like my meat well done, doesnt make me a vegetarian, if you get my drift. Or is that too nuanced an approach to cooking?

Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-07-07 16:25  

#42   My opinion of Muslims is based on knowing the ones I've worked with, and not a more intimate knowledge

And mine is from working with many of them, doing business in multiple muslim countries and speaking with people I know intimately who have even more extensive experience than I.

How sweet that you don't want your lovely neice and her mom stoned. I'm not big on that either. So it is fucking time for muslim leaders to take effective ACTION to end the terror that is plotted in their communities, funded by them, abetted by them and tacitly or openly supported by them.

Because a whole bunch of us have been around muslim countries long enough to know what's what -- and we won't be easily bullshitted on this one.
Posted by: too true   2005-07-07 16:03  

#41  Gentlement, you can't fight here; this is the War Room Rantburg!
Posted by: Jackal   2005-07-07 15:50  

#40  Gosh. I guess I was wrong, cuz your spiffy description equates a clear case with a generality. How touchy-feely and ubersensitive of you and Illogical... It's Inductive... now is it Slothful Induction or Unrepresentative Sample?

Your statement that you are an RB "moderate" and that you have some right to speak for moderates here is comical. I would not call you a moderate - and don't accept your assertion. Thus, what follows is flawed, IMO. You do use moderated language, but the content is liberal. Your defense of Levin, for example, was precious. He's just taking a different tack, he's not abandoning the game of Kennedy, et al. Pfeh. Nice try, though. BTW, your claim is called Prejudicial Language.

And how do I know? Well perfect knowledge is not mine, I agree, and they may help at times... but there is the small matter of today's events, however. Again you appeal to Prejudicial Language, not fact.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 15:34  

#39  Will someone please tell the FBI, Scotland Yard, etc NOT to keep secret the identities of muslims who provide them with tips and other assistance. Please make their names public, as our friends have some special "rewards" for such people.
Posted by: Ayman al Zawahiri, a safe house in beautiful downtown Karachi   2005-07-07 14:40  

#38  "If they were to take the lead - by helping the police track these assholes down, tip them off regards others who are also planning mayhem"

how do you know theyre NOT doing that?
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-07-07 14:38  

#37  "Newsflash: You aren't the conscience of RB, yet you seem to think you are somehow empowered to wag your finger at everyone - even when that haven't said anything to justify it. Your over-the-top uber-sensitivity is just wanking."

most of us do finger wagging at stuff we dont like here - youve done the same, dot com.

as for ubersensitivity,let me try to speak on behalf of RB "moderates" anyone who is REALLY a kumbaya ubersensitive type doesnt post here, or comes to troll for a bit and leaves. The "moderates" here are ALL basically hardline, dont tread on me types who tend to get called "right winger" "imperialist" and "fascist" in certain other places. We just have somewhat different approaches to how we define the enemy than some others do.

Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-07-07 14:36  

#36  Thanks, DB. There is right and there is wrong. None of us are above it.
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 13:11  

#35  Thanks, 2b. I guess you've been to Flickr. What my experience growing up in Alabama during the Civil Rights era did was to make me look at myself and decide what my own path would be. I consider myself a spiritualist based on the teachings of the Jewish teacher Yeshua. My opinion of Muslims is based on knowing the ones I've worked with, and not a more intimate knowledge.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-07-07 13:07  

#34  oh...and did I mention leftist tools? My most favorite is one of those.
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 12:55  

#33  Deacon Blues - you have an awesome picture colletion by the way.

Although I feel somewhat backed into a corner, I am the first to agree with what you say. We are in the fight for our lives.

I have in my own immediate family, Christians, Muslims, Jews, atheists, and in my extended family, buddhists. With that being said, I've come to the conclusion that there is good and evil and it is in each of us.

My beautiful six year old neice is a Muslim. I don't want anyone stoning her - or her mother. Her mother is easily led - but she is not evil.

Maybe that's why, as a shrill and pompus ass, I advocate taking the high road . And I know that's why I chose Christianity. Human nature can sink really low.
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 12:49  

#32  It's their choice at the moment but silence over the short period of time available will forclose that choice and they will be left to live with the consequences and by that I don't mean the blind violence of bigots. Talk about fear of speaking up is nonesense. If they have a productive contribution to the growth and protection of the society they enjoy they must act affirmatively otherwise they will be marginalized and demonized and quite rightfully so I might add. They need to defend the society they live in and preserve their place in it. The issue's been pressed upon them not of their volition but regardless, they can't ride the fence or choose apathy with impunity under the circumstances existing. Time to figure out who and what they really are and what it is they truly cherish because the rest of the society in which they live has already done so with regard to itself.
Posted by: RacoonFromHell   2005-07-07 12:46  

#31  Turn the mullahs out.
Posted by: eLarson   2005-07-07 12:35  

#30  RFH - right on the money. A "statement" followed by... nothing... is bullshit. If they were to take the lead - by helping the police track these assholes down, tip them off regards others who are also planning mayhem, and continually move toward becoming good citizens, instead of standing back, making the occasional noise, and nothing more.

There are active asshats, and a pool of potential asshats, waiting to be tapped for duty. That has to change - or they get to take the heat for the actions of those they implicity support by their inaction.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 12:26  

#29  2b, I lived near Selma, Alabama in the 60's when the Selma to Monygomery march was made, lived 3 miles from the site where Viola Liuzo? was murdered, and lived in the same county where several other people were murdered. I understand your comment about Muslims being afraid to speak out like whites were afraid to speak out against the Klan. I lived it. However, I do think that the fact more Muslims don't speak out against the violence is not because they are afraid but that jihad and killing infidels is a part of their religion. They wouldn't do these things themselves but wont decry others doing them. I know former Klan members who would not commit acts of violence themselves but didn't condem the acts of the Klan as a whole. I don't know how it is now but the Klan WAS a type of religion with chaplains and an organization of rituals that included prayer and christian symbols; ie. the cross. They believed it was the white man's destiny to rule the Earth under their interpretation of the Christian Bible and violence was a means to that end. In that respect they were not much different than the Islamofascists. The extermination of Jews, homosexuals, Catholics, and numerous other ethnic groups was part of the plan. They didn'r advocate extermination of Americans of African decent, just total subjugation. If they had been more organized nationally they would have been MUCH more dangerous than they were.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-07-07 12:25  

#28  The failure to do so is inexcusable and will be held against them by alot of people for a long time and in many different ways far more damaging that ugly blind violence.

well said, racoon. Despite being a shrill and pompus ass, I completely agree with what you have said.
Posted by: 2b - a shrill & pompus   2005-07-07 12:25  

#27  I didn't think it was directed at me. Sheesh. It was an unnecessary bit of your "I Am The Voice Of Conscience" routine. Y'know, the one that rubs the first time, chafes the second, and generates pain every time thereafter. Rest it. We know you care. So do we. We care more about the victims than the perps, yes, but we care about getting the right people, too.

Never mind. We're getting nowhere. You have your selected gig and you're happy with it. I will do what I do, too.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 12:21  

#26  Sure enough there are many citizens and residents of the UK who are good people and happen to be muslim. Fact of the matter is that it is their religion being used as justification for senseless violence against innocent civilians. If they care for their adopted home, the values that make it what it is, and the role of their faith in that society they must step up and act. The failure to do so is inexcusable and will be held against them by alot of people for a long time and in many different ways far more damaging that ugly blind violence. It is very predictable.
Posted by: RacoonFromHell   2005-07-07 12:16  

#25  What makes you think I was directing my comments towards you or towards ed. The headline of an article on rantburg was that Muslims need to stay indoors. I think that's a shame. I was just making a comment. If you think I was somehow implying that YOU were to blame, then what can I say?
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 12:15  

#24  Shiipman, not Shipman?

NYM TROLL ALERT!
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 12:13  

#23  As for following you around, lol, no I read all of the threads here at RB

Oh shit! I didn't mean that one with the
boyfoot bear with teaks of chan.

Really, it was the pith helmet talking.
Posted by: Shiipman   2005-07-07 12:11  

#22  Me too. The "true...but", in context, made the point, and you still miss it.

Today you started here, in comment #2. Not even a hint of anything like you post but, eyes flashing, you post this little finger waggin BS link. When it's justified, fine. When it's not, then focus on what is actually going on. That's not too much to ask.

You are not my moral better.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 12:08  

#21  Fine .com. If it is your mission in life to let me know that I am a shrill and pompus ass, go to it. By the way, I don't think you picked a particularly good example since it was you wanking at me for saying "true, but"

But whatever. I'm a shrill and pompus ass. I'm ok with that.
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 12:03  

#20  ed.. I've long said that I think the Muslim religion, with its emphasis on blame is responsible for many of the ills in Muslim society.

I get your point about whites joining the KKK and it's vaild. But I just believe that most Muslim people want to go about living their lives and are either influenced by Whabbi leaders or are afraid to speak up in the same way that whites were afraid to speak up back in the 1920's.
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 12:00  

#19  2b - I didn't say that - didn't even imply it.

I said you were a shrill ass. Then added pompous to shrill ass. Here - re-read it.

As for following you around, lol, no I read all of the threads here at RB. If you happen to be acting like an asstard, well, I'll probably say so.

Newsflash: You aren't the conscience of RB, yet you seem to think you are somehow empowered to wag your finger at everyone - even when that haven't said anything to justify it. Your over-the-top uber-sensitivity is just wanking.

LOL! Pissy is your gig. That you don't see it is hysterical. ed nailed you to the wall, yet you go into screechy mode repeating it - as if he was just dense. He wasn't dense, he was right. I read it and sigh, "here we go again...".

And here we are. Again. Get over yourself.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 11:59  

#18  2b, I see your are on the right side. I just wish you had focused more. The KKK comment has the effect of spreading the blame of this atrocity in London. Sorry for my outburst.
Posted by: ed   2005-07-07 11:57  

#17  2b,
I found your comment #11 to be fine until the last paragraph. This moral equivalence is killing western civilization. It leads to confusion and paralysis in the face of a relentless religious enemy who would genocide all of this this minute if they had the capability. Instead, they one or two at a time in Thailand, hundreds in Europe, 3000 in New York, hundreds of thousands in Africa, until the day they have the capability once again to kill millions.

One final question. Do you really think many US whites are waiting to join the KKK if only others would not hold them accountable? I ask as someone who is less than 50% white.
Posted by: ed   2005-07-07 11:53  

#16  Meanwhile, a poster at Daily Kos says a would-be suicide bomber was shot dead in the Canary Wharf area.
Posted by: too true   2005-07-07 11:47  

#15  make up your mind, .com. First I'm cold hearted because I'm sick of Natalee Halloway stories, now I'm St. 2b. because I make a comment about the fact that I feel bad that ordinary Muslims need to stay indoors. You just going to follow me around and write pissy comments now?
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 11:46  

#14  Here we go again...

Popcorn, ed?

I have no idea what I might have done without Saint 2b's digital digit waggin in my face. I prolly would've run amok, bombing buses in Muzzyville. Saved.

Butter?
Posted by: .com   2005-07-07 11:38  

#13  oh please. Is this really what you want to see?
link

Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 11:30  

#12  2b,
Until whites worship the KKK manual as the final word of god, and worship the Grand Wizard as the perfection of Man worthy of the emulation in the most minute detail, I find your attempt at moral equilavence disgusting. Let the fate of Islam be the same as that of Nazism.
Posted by: ed   2005-07-07 11:25  

#11  agree that the peaceful Muslims need to speak up, and expect that they won't. But let's not turn our anger to those not responsible and keep the focus on those who are. The sad thing is that the security services have a good idea who those people are and do far too little to deport or expose them.

The hate sermons have to stop. Allowing them to continue is insanity. Every sermon in every mosque needs to be visited, recorded and translated for the rest of us to hear. When they call for death, then their tax status needs to be revoked and their pastors punished for sedition or for inciting violence.

That said, it is important that we don't blame those who are not responsible.

All whites, make that most whites, were not responsible for the actions of the KKK. But many were guilty of not speaking up - mostly due to fear or tradition. What ended the KKK was holding those who were responsible accountable for their crimes.
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-07 11:05  

#10  Only the lowest of scum could consider it a time to rejoice when innocent civilians are senselessly murdered in the name of some god. European muslims (as well as those here in America) would do well to look at themselves and their community in order to make some choices and take a stand for their adopted homes before the opportunity to choose is lost. The average european, even the liberal types, are surely starting to view their unintegrated and fundamentalist muslim populations in a different light now if they haven't already.
Posted by: RacoonFromHell   2005-07-07 10:54  

#9  Prayers to the folks in London...

Unlike here in the USA, i understand that criminal investigations in Britain's system when there is a threat to the nation as a whole can have persons arrested go to "certain sections" of police stations. Things can happen to those detained which make Guantanimo accusations look like Sunday School.

Let's hope some of these shadow units have picked up a few snakey Imams from pro-al-Qaeda Mosques for a little "chat"...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-07-07 10:48  

#8  The apparent mood in London: shock and quiet anger. The anger will build as time goes on and the shock wears off...

Pissing off the tiny island that once conquered half the world is probably not a very good idea.

The Haj should be interesting this year.
Posted by: mojo   2005-07-07 10:22  

#7  it'd be a start, Mike. Europe needs to look at ejecting the ghetto'd muslims back to their "land of sharia"
Posted by: Frank G   2005-07-07 10:18  

#6  There's a part of me that really really wants to see this place put to the torch in retaliation for the attack. Wouldn't shock me if the attackers were members.
Posted by: Mike   2005-07-07 10:02  

#5  seven words to peaceful muslims:
"Get the f*ck out while you can"

turn the soccer "fans" loose on the moskkks
Posted by: Frank G   2005-07-07 09:59  

#4  Note how they refer to theses cowardly bombing as "military raid", blessed even! Disgusting! Thees absolute bastards cannot set a working society, therefore cannot stand up in a battlefield, they cannot even run up a successful guerilla... so to them the only way is to strike at defenseless civilans, by surprize and anonymously.
They live in a world of their own, where they are the lions of islam, the Master Religion reigning over all humanity with its divine law and perfect society.
That really depresses me... we're going to lose, I mean Europe, probably in the long run, through demography, cultural relativity, lack of will and the occasionnal terror used to further the non-violent conquest by reminding us we are dhimmis living in insecurity... and we are not going to lose to a superior civilization, but to a failed one we best in every aspect... damn.

I read the response of Tony Blair; very good, he may be a socialist, I still respect him.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2005-07-07 09:58  

#3  Two words: Guy Fawkes.
Posted by: Fred   2005-07-07 09:45  

#2  The peace-loving portion of the Muslims in Britain have just had their lives made more difficult. Let's see if any of them will stand up an renounce this violence in the name of their "God, the merciful, the compassionate". Somehow I doubt it.
Posted by: Tom   2005-07-07 09:44  

#1  Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

Must've passed my office by, that 'burning panic'. You in the pub yet, Howard? Dickless wankers.
Posted by: Bulldog   2005-07-07 09:37  

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