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Arabia
Developers and purists erase Mecca's history
2005-07-13
EFL.We may not have to nuke it after all. They may do it for us.
MECCA, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - Some of Islam's historic sites in Mecca, possibly including a home of the Prophet Mohammad, are under threat from Saudi real estate developers and Wahhabi Muslims who view them as promoting idolatry.
Loons and greedheads destroy Mecca. Alk runners blamed. Film at eleven...
Sami Angawi, an expert on the region's Islamic architecture, said 1,400-year-old buildings from the early Islamic period risk being demolished to make way for high rise towers for Muslims flocking to perform the annual pilgrimage to Islam's holiest city."We are witnessing now the last few moments of the history of Mecca," Angawi told Reuters. "Its layers of history are being bulldozed for a parking lot," he added.
We have a faster solution. But you might not like it...
Angawi estimated that over the past 50 years at least 300 historical buildings had been leveled in Mecca and Medina, another Muslim holy city containing the prophet's tomb. Wahhabism, Saudi Arabia's dominant doctrine which promotes a strict narrow interpretation of Islam, was largely to blame, he said.
Not Muslim Enough comes to Mecca...
"They (Wahhabis) have not allowed preservation of old buildings, especially those related to the prophet. They fear other Muslims will come to see these buildings as blessed and this could lead to polytheism and idolatry."
Mo Pissed Here. 4,678,987,897,543rd Holiest Place in Islam.
The Washington-based Saudi Institute, an independent news gathering group, says most Islamic landmarks have been destroyed since Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932. It cited a 1994 edict by the kingdom's senior council of religious scholars which ruled that preserving historical buildings might lead to polytheism.
Wow. Sounds worse then Guantanamo.
Angawi, who founded the Haj Research Center in 1975 to study and preserve Mecca and Medina's rich history, claims to have identified a home of the Prophet Mohammad. But he is reluctant to publicize its location fearing it would be demolished like DAR al Arqam -- the first school in Islam where the prophet taught. Angawi's views were echoed elsewhere.
...and they get pissed at us for looking at a Koran wrong?
In London, Geoffrey King, Islamic art and archeology specialist at the School of Oriental and African and Studies, said the fate of Islamic historic sites in Saudi Arabia was "depressing."
"The religious authorities have failed to appreciate the significance of these buildings to Muslims and scholars worldwide," said King, who taught for several years in the kingdom and stressed many young Saudis agreed with him.
Yes, yes. We agree with you...INFIDEL!
Followers of Wahhabism say Muslims should focus on Mecca's Grand Mosque, which contains the Kaaba -- an ancient structure that more than 4 million Muslims visit each year as part of haj and umra pilgrimages.
Which reminds me. I have to get my over/under stampede bet in early this year.
Real estate firms see massive demand for new accommodation to house up to 20 million pilgrims expected to visit Islam's holiest city annually over the coming years as authorities relax entry restrictions for pilgrims."The infrastructure at the moment cannot cope. New hotels, apartments and services are badly needed," the director of a leading real estate company said, estimating that developers are spending around 50 billion riyals ($13 billion) on projects in the city.
Cha-ching. Sorry, Mo. Don't send down a plague or nothing. Business is business...
Dominating these is the 10 billion riyal Jabal Omar scheme. Covering a 230,000 square yard area adjacent to the Grand Mosque, the seven-year project consists of several towers containing hotels, apartments, shops and restaurants. Angawi said these developments will dwarf Mecca's Grand Mosque and are a sign of crass commercialization."Mecca is being treated like a bad copy of any city when it is a sanctuary. The house of God is being commercialized and these developments are disrespectful and totally out of proportion." But the Jabal Omar Development Company, the firm behind the project, said it was changing Mecca for the better, not least in demolishing more than 1,000 poorly built homes that clung precariously to the hillsides around the Grand Mosque.
Their version of "It's for...the children"?
The firm said around 70,000 residents from 29 different nationalities used to live on the Jabal Omar site before selling up and moving into better quality housing elsewhere.
The residents of a similar neighborhood close by seemed to be equally eager to attract developers. Ali Hussein, a 38-year-old originally from Myanmar, lives in a cramped house deep within a network of unpaved, rubbish-strewn alleyways. "The people that moved away now live in nice homes," he said as a stray cat skipped over a puddle of sewage nearby. "This is a very poor area. We hope another investor will come," said Amin Rafie, a local community ombudsman, adding that residents would likely be offered a handsome price for their disheveled homes in Saudi Arabia's oil-driven real estate boom.
1 bedroom hovel, bathroom in street, no electric, no gas. GREAT VIEW OF KAABA! 2 million dollars US.
But Angawi wasn't convinced of the developers' motives. "We have to accommodate these new pilgrims, but do we have to do it in towers and skyscrapers? Making money seems to be the bottom line here," he said. "We are destroying physical links to our past and turning our religion and history into a legend," he said.
Profit before Islam. I am, like, so very, very shocked!
Posted by:tu3031

#13  Here is an interesting article on the same subject.
The money quote:
"But that's only half the story. Crusade-besotted pan-Arab pan-Muslims, who were so outraged over the (non)events at the Baghdad Museum during the U.S. invasion of Iraq, should ask themselves: How much respect has the Wahhabi sect of Islam shown to Muslim monuments? It's a question that Al-Jazeeraites don't ever ask.

After the Dayton Accords in Bosnia and in postconflict Kosovo, reconstruction aid poured in from Saudi Arabia. Much of it went into Wahhabi proselytizing, bullying, converting and bribing of destitute Muslims. An austere desert sect, Wahhabism cannot abide what it considers idolatry, frippery, or nostalgia for objects in religious places. When forced by locals to renovate rather than supplant, the Saudis obliterated all historical highlights, interior decoration, turquoise tiling and the like in local mosques, ripping out and whitewashing everywhere. Like the Serbs and Croats, they forcibly purged what they considered alien--only they did so within the precincts of their own religion. In Kosovo's cemeteries, weeping villagers often witnessed Saudi bulldozers destroying the marble headstones of their Albanian forefathers from the 14th and 15th centuries. U.N. observers considered it an intra-Muslim dispute beyond their ken.

So much for the Saudis abroad. What about the holy soil of Saudi Arabia, in Mecca and Medina--terrain that Osama bin Laden so fiercely declared as threatened by the proximity of American infidel bases? As it happens, there the Saudi record is even worse, with the Bin Laden family in the forefront of razing and building contracts.

During the Ottoman centuries, Mecca and Medina became highly cosmopolitan, with many world Muslims of varied sects choosing to settle and die there. Their descendants often came to visit their ancestors' tombs. That sacred ground was the common heritage of all Muslims. It became Saudi property when the Wahhabis took over in the 1920s and, ever since, they have systematically destroyed all such sites, including the tombs of the Prophet's own family and companions. This always involved digging deep under the foundations to remove all fragments of bones. In Mecca, in the 1970s, they even tore down the dwelling of Mohammed's mother. A McDonald's has replaced it. To many eyes, even the Kaaba's Great Mosque of Mohammed has been utterly destroyed by total renovation.

Few Muslims dare to say such things publicly, of course, least of all Al-Jazeera correspondents. The monuments, though, or what remains of them, speak volumes."
I juat love the McDonalds touch.

Posted by: tipper   2005-07-13 21:58  

#12  I wonder if they'll use Cat 'dozers to destroy The Profit's old haunts...
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-07-13 18:25  

#11  If youre going to establish butter popping outlet, a non-historical use in this district, you need to first submit your plans to this council, to make sure that no alterations will be made that will infringe on the historical charecter and appearance of the neighborhood
Posted by: Rantburg national historic district preservation council   2005-07-13 13:55  

#10  Popcorn it is, extra butter anyone?
Posted by: Steve   2005-07-13 13:47  

#9  Am I reading this right? The 20th century and the 12th century are about to clash in Mecca? Can we have popcorn?
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-13 12:42  

#8  Don't Moslems get worked up if a building is taller than the town's minaret? How dare they build high-rise towers in Mecca?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2005-07-13 11:58  

#7  "It don't say 'Islamic' until we say it sez 'Islamic'. Capische?"
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-07-13 11:57  

#6  They paved Paradies and put up a parking lot
Posted by: Joni Mitchell   2005-07-13 11:48  

#5  Let's see here:
preservation of old buildings, especially those related to the prophet: BAD
the Kaaba -- an ancient structure that more than 4 million Muslims visit each year as part of haj and umra pilgrimages: GOOD
Oh I see, it's the kaaba itself that leads to polytheism and idolatry...
Posted by: Spot   2005-07-13 10:46  

#4  Welcome to Meccaland™! Here have a Prophetpop...
Posted by: mojo   2005-07-13 10:40  

#3  It cited a 1994 edict by the kingdom's senior council of religious scholars which ruled that preserving historical buildings might lead to polytheism.

So we can go ahead and knock down the Al'Aqsa Mosque?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-07-13 10:19  

#2  ROFL!

Ah, this is just precious. The Hardcores vs the Touchy-Feelys. We can sympathize a bit.

Now if they were only aware of the infidels running around the Empty Quater in their 4WDs finding all those ancient artifacts - and shipping them home pronto... Remember, they're VERY concerned about what comes IN, but they don't pay much attention to what goes OUT, lol! If they knew, well, they'd pop another vein or two, lol! I'll have to send this to some folks...
Posted by: .com   2005-07-13 10:14  

#1  They must have heard about that "Eminent Domain" ruling in the Supreme Court.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2005-07-13 10:06  

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