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Molly Ivins : I was wrong
2005-07-13
This is a horror. In a column written June 28, I asserted that more Iraqis (civilians) had now been killed in this war than had been killed by Saddam Hussein over his 24-year rule. WRONG. Really, really wrong.

The only problem is figuring out by how large a factor I was wrong. I had been keeping an eye on civilian deaths in Iraq for a couple of months, waiting for the most conservative estimates to creep over 20,000, which I had fixed in my mind as the number of Iraqi civilians Saddam had killed.

The high-end estimate of Iraqi civilian deaths in this war is 100,000, according to a Johns Hopkins University study published in the British medical journal The Lancet last October, but I was sticking to the low-end, most conservative estimates because I didn't want to be accused of exaggeration.

Ha! I could hardly have been more wrong, no matter how you count Saddam's killing of civilians. According to Human Rights Watch, Hussein killed several hundred thousand of his fellow citizens. The massacre of the Kurdish Barzani tribe in 1983 killed at least 8,000; the infamous gas attack on the Kurdish village of Halabja killed 5,000 in 1988; and seized documents from Iraqi security organizations show 182,000 were murdered during the Anfal ethnic cleansing campaign against Kurds, also in 1988.

In 1991, following the first Gulf War, both the Kurds and the Shiites rebelled. The allied forces did not intervene, and Saddam brutally suppressed both uprisings and drained the southern marshes that had been home to a local population for more than 5,000 years.

Saddam's regime left 271 mass graves, with more still being discovered. That figure alone was the source for my original mistaken estimate of 20,000. Saddam's widespread use of systematic torture, including rape, has been verified by the U.N. Committee on Human Rights and other human rights groups over the years.

There are wildly varying estimates of the number of civilians, especially babies and young children, who died as a result of the sanctions that followed the Gulf War. While it is true that the ill-advised sanctions were put in place by the United Nations, I do not see that that lessens Hussein's moral culpability, whatever blame attaches to the sanctions themselves -- particularly since Saddam promptly corrupted the Oil for Food Program put in place to mitigate the effects of the sanctions, and used the proceeds to build more palaces, etc.

There have been estimates as high as 1 million civilians killed by Saddam, though most agree on the 300,000 to 400,000 range, making my comparison to 20,000 civilian dead in this war pathetically wrong.

I was certainly under no illusions regarding Saddam Hussein, whom I have opposed through human rights work for decades. My sincere apologies. It is unforgivable of me not have checked. I am so sorry.


Molly Ivins is the former editor of the liberal monthly The Texas Observer. She is the bestselling author of several books including Who Let the Dogs In?
Posted by:Steve

#16  mhw, that article reads more like damning with an inverse apology than actual admitting that he was truly wrong. He accuses that jailed NYTimes reporter of being a White House stooge, for goodness' sake!
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-07-13 21:14  

#15  Waitaminnit, something's missing here. Where's the big BUT? There's supposed to be a big BUT at the end of this. You know, like "Saddam Hussein was an evil man who killed millions of his own people for pleasure, BUT Chimpy McHalliburton lied in order to secure oil rights for his frat buddies." Sounds like Ivins needs a vacation.
Posted by: BH   2005-07-13 19:16  

#14  Fred : Hell freezing over is an understatement...

It is approaching -459 F.... Absolute Zero!
Posted by: BigEd   2005-07-13 16:46  

#13  Olde Texas Smithy hearing the beginnings of the holy choir. Time for a little redempshun!

PRIASE THE LORD AND PASS THE POPCORN!
Posted by: O Redenbocker   2005-07-13 16:00  

#12  2b - ;)
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2005-07-13 13:05  

#11  #6 Bobby - that's what I thought when I saw the headline.

I think the picture is most appropriate.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-07-13 13:04  

#10  whom I have opposed through human rights work for decades...

Really? When was that, Ms. Ivins?
Posted by: Matt   2005-07-13 12:51  

#9  It is unforgivable of me not have checked.

Christ, bitch. Who did you think you work for, the friggin New York Times?
But you're a good lib, so I see you getting the press eqivalent of the intentional walk...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-07-13 12:32  

#8  I was certainly under no illusions regarding Saddam Hussein,..

No illusions, but guilty of taking his potential for barbarity far too lightly.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-07-13 12:21  

#7  LAR...lol!
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-13 12:13  

#6  Waitaminute.... Is this a Scrappleface article?
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-13 12:11  

#5  and liberal policy wonk Robert Kuttner has an apology for an anti Bush anti special prosecuter column up at:
Link
Posted by: mhw   2005-07-13 12:11  

#4  The high-end estimate of Iraqi civilian deaths in this war is 100,000

Also wrong, Molly. As some of read here a few days ago, the estimate had a 95% confidence of being between 8,000 and 198,000. A pretty big range.

But now, Molly admits she had lept to unsupported conclusions to justify her pre-conceived position. Gotta be a first time for everything!
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-13 12:11  

#3  You mean like the Emmanuel, ah, "films"?
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2005-07-13 12:07  

#2  and men will enjoy shopping and watching foreign love films.
Posted by: 2b   2005-07-13 12:04  

#1  This could be a sign of the Apocalypse, or of the unravelling of the very fabric of the universe. First Molly Ivins admits error; then next thing you know, CAIR will condemn Palestinian terrorism, John McCain will introduce a bill to repeal McCain-Feingold, Markos Zuniga will pledge support for the Bush administration, cats and dogs will start living together, school cafeteria lunches will taste good, . . .
Posted by: Mike   2005-07-13 12:00  

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