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al-Timimi Sentenced to Va. Prison
2005-07-13
A prominent Islamic scholar who exhorted his followers after the Sept. 11 attacks to join the Taliban and fight U.S. troops was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison. Ali al-Timimi of Fairfax was convicted in April of soliciting others to levy war against the United States, inducing others to aid the Taliban, and inducing others to use firearms in violation of federal law.
No virgins where he's going, just Virginians
The cleric addressed the court for 10 minutes before his sentencing. "I will not admit guilt nor seek the court's mercy. I do this simply because I am innocent," al-Timimi said. Assistant U.S. Attorney Gordon Kromberg said al-Timimi "hates the United States" and has called for its destruction. "He's allowed to do that in this country," Kromberg said. "He's not allowed to solicit treason. He deserves every day he gets." U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said the evidence supported the mandatory life sentence. The judge had earlier left open the possibility that she would toss out some of the counts.
Unfortunately, this gives him a podium to recruit radicals in prison.
About 50 supporters were in court for al-Timimi, who waved to his wife as he was escorted from court.
"Hi, honey! I'm off to jug!"
She declined to comment.
"Oh, cheeze! Take me, Lord!"
Prosecutors portrayed al-Timimi, a native U.S. citizen, as having "rock star" status among his followers, who frequently heard his lectures at a small mosque in Falls Church. In particular, prosecutors said, the defendant wielded enormous influence among a group of young Muslim men in northern Virginia who played paintball games in 2000 and 2001. Authorities said they were a "Virginia jihad network" training for holy war around the globe. Nine members of the group have been convicted for their roles in the conspiracy, with prison terms ranging from three years to life. Al-Timimi's lawyers argued that their client merely suggested that Muslims may want to leave the United States after Sept. 11 because of the potential for a backlash against them.
"Because of the potential for backlash against Muslim, I suggest you go do terrible things to infidels. That'll make it all better."
But he was accused of telling a group of young Muslim men just days after the attack that an apocalyptic battle between Muslims and nonbelievers was at hand and that Muslims were obligated to engage in holy war. He told the group that defense of the Taliban was a requirement and that U.S. troops were a legitimate target, according to court testimony. Several of the men who heard Al-Timimi's speech traveled days later to Pakistan and began training with a militant Islamic group called Lashkar-e-Taiba, officials said. Some testified that their goal was to obtain training that would allow them to fight alongside the Taliban, though none actually made it to Afghanistan.
Posted by:too true

#14  He was the spiritual leader for the "paintball team" as I remember.
Posted by: Super Hose   2005-07-13 20:33  

#13  These guys are NOT hidden folks. You dont need muslim informants to find out which mosques are extremist. These guys are in plain sight.

Those guys aren't hidden. Others aren't hidden, but aren't as open about their opinions. Others are hiding, or are hidden by their community.

Remember (and I'm pretty sure I've pointed this out to you three times, maybe this time it'll sink in) that the spiritual advisor in the Lodi case was a popular speaker at mosques all around the US. Did he only speak at the radical ones? Does the Lodi mosque -- which hired him -- count as a radical mosque? Before he was exposed, did the Lodi mosque as openly express their support for jihad as al-Timimi and his crew?

But it's nice to hear you still don't think Muslims have to take a hand in policing their own community. At least you're consistent.

Wrong, but consistent.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-07-13 18:41  

#12  This is great news. I listened to NPR all afternoon but no mention of the Al-Timimi case. NPR was quick to highlight (often) the World Com CEO convicted of fraud who caught 25 years. I guess catching a life sentence in prison for solicitng treason against the United States somehow isn't news worthy. Oh, the banality of treason sayeth NPR.
Posted by: Mark Z.   2005-07-13 18:26  

#11  Need a good laugh?

This is the same Clinton-appointee judge who handled the bizarre Moussaui circus, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema, ruling he could represent himself, question Ramzi Binalshibh, etc.

Here's a pretty good roundup of that, uh, um, trial.

Perhaps the ClueBat has paid her a few visits over the last 3.5 years and she's beginning to "get it": these cretins are dangerous. If so, then good for her - and us.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-13 14:59  

#10  This guy already has parishoners (or whatever) in the slammer to protect him. You can bet he will start proselytizing as soon as he is de-loused. Prisons probably generate more Muslims for the US than immigrants do.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-07-13 14:58  

#9  by the way, if you look at the guys mosque's website, where he lists the islamic scholars he follows, he specifically mentions Sayd Qutb and al- Mahdudi, the leading thinkers of contemporary islamic extremism.

These guys are NOT hidden folks. You dont need muslim informants to find out which mosques are extremist. These guys are in plain sight.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-07-13 14:50  

#8  About 50 supporters were in court for al-Timimi

50 more names for the watch list.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-07-13 14:39  

#7  And, as we all know, Fascisti screaming "Eichmanns!" terribly sensitive and brazen plagiarists artistic types have their lies spirits crushed by exposure confinement.

Okay, make it two 10 ft lengths of rope, though it would be greener if they shared the same one.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-13 14:09  

#6  I think it would be a terrible terrible terrible awful awful awful thing if Ward Churchill was found hung in a prison cell in about 6 months. Prison can be so degrading and dehumanizing...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-07-13 14:04  

#5  I don't know many details of this case, but those that are presented force me to ask how this is any different from what the leftist scumbag fuck Ward Churchill has been saying?
Posted by: Hyper   2005-07-13 13:55  

#4  Think the prison pass on a 10 ft length of rope if I send it? I'll even pre-knot a noose on the thing for him, just in case he doesn't get it.
Posted by: .com   2005-07-13 13:42  

#3  I agree tu sure would be a shame.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-07-13 13:38  

#2  Conviction of incitement charges ought to mandate solitary confinement.
Posted by: Super Hose   2005-07-13 13:37  

#1  I think it would be a terrible terrible terrible awful awful awful thing if this mook was found hung in his cell in about 6 months. Prison can be so degrading and dehumanizing...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-07-13 13:14  

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