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| UK: Brazilian gun victim on forged papers |
| 2005-07-29 |
| LONDON, July 29 (UPI) -- The innocent Brazilian man shot to death by police on suspicion of being a suicide bomber was in Britain on forged documents, the Home Office said. Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, was shot eight times by plainclothes officers at Stockwell underground station last week. He had been followed after emerging from an apartment block linked to the July 21 bomb attempts by an address found in one of the rucksacks used. Challenged by officers as he entered the station, he reportedly jumped the ticket barrier and ran onto a waiting train, where he was pinned to the floor and shot. His family denied initial reports suggesting his visa had expired, and said he would not have run when challenged. However, the Home Office confirmed Thursday night de Menezes' student visa expired more than two years ago. In a carefully worded statement, officials suggested the residency stamp in his passport was not genuine. "We have seen a copy of Mr. de Menezes's passport containing a stamp apparently giving him indefinite leave to remain in the U.K.," a spokesman said. "On investigation, this stamp was not one that was in use by the Immigration and Nationality Directorate on the date given." |
| Posted by:Steve |
| #14 "The innocent Brazilian" was not innocent, according to the article. So why call him "innocent"? It doesn't make sense for him to dress and run like that; he could not be afraid of having his ID checked since he had a (decently) faked visa stamp in it -- unless there's something else he was worried about... I still suspect the denial of any connection to the Moslem terrorists was hasty. After all, none of the failed bombers had been arrested at that time. The police could not have certainty of no connection. And TGA, are you here? You shouldn't believe everything Jack Straw says. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-29 20:12 |
| #13 #1 Sky News reported seven shots to the head and one to the shoulder. We had quite a discussion about Menezes when that was posted here on the 25th. #2 & #3 The guy was Roman Catholic. Link to story on funeral Mass here. |
| Posted by: GK 2005-07-29 20:04 |
| #12 I always figured Buclee for a poeser |
| Posted by: WIlliam Staffair the Elder 2005-07-29 16:55 |
| #11 Me, I think that he's really William F Buckley. Certainly would be an effective disguise. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2005-07-29 15:28 |
| #10 This guy was not a "Gun Victim" he was a product of natural selection. 'Gun Victim" my arse. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-07-29 15:25 |
| #9 M4D is a riddle wrapped in an enigma. Me, I think that he's really William F Buckley. |
| Posted by: Secret Master 2005-07-29 15:23 |
| #8 M4D has a long memory. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-07-29 15:12 |
| #7 wach lhr's motives tt. no evedense thes guy hadder do anytheeng with islam. |
| Posted by: muck4doo 2005-07-29 12:02 |
| #6 One very interesting question is: from whom did he get his forged papers, and when? Be interesting to see if they trace back to the Islamacist network -- which might be the only connection he had to them, if that much, apart from living in the same apartment block. |
| Posted by: too true 2005-07-29 11:54 |
| #5 "innocent Brazilian man... Challenged by officers as he entered the station, he reportedly jumped the ticket barrier and ran... visa expired more than two years ago... residency stamp in his passport was not genuine..." He wasn't a terrorist, but he wasn't an innocent man either. |
| Posted by: Neutron Tom 2005-07-29 11:11 |
| #4 He would not have run when challenged because he had a "student" visa expired two years ago? A keen student of electrical engineering working on an independent study project that actually paid more than a stipend? Uh, staying as an illegal working as an electrician and carrying forged papers would mean party over would it not. No asylum to claim. It's a crime involving lying and sure as hell he'd run. He was already "running" from the authorities before the day of the incident. It's a shame he made the fatal mistake of playing rabbit at the wrong time and with the wrong folks but he's no pure as the wind driven snow innocent. He made a very large contribution to his own demise. |
| Posted by: MunkatKat 2005-07-29 11:04 |
| #3 #2: Was this guy a MOOOSLUM? Posted by: Long Hair Republican|| 2005-07-29 10:53|| Comments|| Top|| no evidense of that. havernt forgot bowt ya. |
| Posted by: muck4doo 2005-07-29 11:01 |
| #2 Was this guy a MOOOSLUM? |
| Posted by: Long Hair Republican 2005-07-29 10:53 |
| #1 Am I supposed to be surprised? Oh, and where did those other 3 shots come from? I kept hearing that he was shot 5 times not 8. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2005-07-29 10:37 |