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"Moderate" Muslim Cleric in UK claims no such thing as al-Qa'eda
2005-07-30
The most senior Islamic cleric in Birmingham claimed yesterday that Muslims were being unjustly blamed in the war on terrorism and that the eight suspects in the two bombing attacks on London "could have been innocent passengers".
Right....Kinda like the Unabomber being an innocent, anti-government, anti-technology hermit.
Mohammad Naseem, the chairman of the city's central mosque, called Tony Blair a "liar" and "unreliable witness" and questioned whether CCTV footage issued of the suspected bombers was of the perpetrators.
News flash from the 21st century. It is called forensic science and DNA dipwad.
He said that Muslims "all over the world have never heard of an organisation called al-Qa'eda".
Right, and I'm really George Bush.
Mr Naseem, who was speaking after police seized Yasin Hassan Omar in Birmingham, delivered his unprompted outburst when he was invited to a press conference with West Midlands police and Birmingham city council to help calm fears of racial or religious tension after the arrest.
Oh boy am I calm now. Mmmmhmm. Don't feel any threat by the Islamic forces. Nosireeee.
It was held near the police cordon in Heybarnes Road, where Omar was arrested.

His comments shocked senior police officers.

Sources said that attempts to encourage Muslims to pass them information on the bombers' activities would be hindered. One said: "We are trying to gain the trust of the Muslim community and these kinds of comments have the opposite effect. All they do is encourage communities to close ranks against us."
Give this man a ClueBat
To the obvious embarrassment of council officials and police standing next to him, Mr Naseem said the Government and security services "were not to be relied upon".
By all means, don't rely on them. Vigilantes work very well.
He said: "Tony Blair has told lies on going to Iraq and in a court of law if a witness has proved to be a liar he ceases to be a reliable witness. So we cannot give our blind trust to the Government.
Which court of "law" is this? Moooslem courts in the UK don't count.
"To have that trust it is important that the process of law should be independent, open and transparent. I am also sad that unfortunately the impression has been given that Muslims are to be targeted in this war against terror. There seems to be a directive to target Muslims. Why do we not have an open mind about this?
'Cause Moooslems keep blowing us up, asshole! I'll open your mind, with a .45 hollowpoint if you even think of threatening my familiy.
"Muslim bashing seems to be more earnest than the need for national unity and harmony. Terrorists can be anybody - we will have to see [whether the bombers are Muslims]. The process is not open; the process is not transparent; the process is not independent. I do not have faith in the system as it stands."
We don't have faith in you and your communities to keep the hate out of our countries.
Mr Naseem is one of the most respected by who?!?! Osama?!?! Muslims in the city and is considered a zelot moderate. He has regular meetings with the chief constable to discuss religious harmony.
News flash, they will only have religious harmony with us when we convert to Islam, bonehead. Read the rest of this guy's spew at link. The UK is gonna be sorry they let this moron in.
Posted by:mmurray821

#9  I wonder though. How is it the US and Israel are so able to manipulate all those muzlims? Only weak minded people could succumb to such obvious manipulation?

oh. never mind.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2005-07-30 23:47  

#8  I know! It's angry French/Germans that didn't get the Olympics! They used the same technology we used to "fake" 9/11, Pearl Harbor, & the Moon Landing!
Posted by: AAM [Evil American]   2005-07-30 18:37  

#7  "Naseem is one of the most respected Muslims in the city and is considered a moderate. "

One additional piece of evidence that these is no such thing as a "moderate Moslem" if by that we mean someone who adheres to Western social institutions of freedom (not submission), individual rights (not jihad) and respect for the law (not sharia).

The Mythical Moderate Moslem is mythical because there can be no moderation in being a Moslem. That is, no moderation in our Western, Enlightenment conception of political tolerance.

The time has come to arrest and execute their leaders, and kick any protesting Moslem out.

They are at war with us. Their war has been declared 1400 years ago and waged against non-Moslems ever since.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2005-07-30 16:34  

#6  As a sidenote, just to show muslims haven't any monopoly on that kind of stuff...

Le Réseau Voltaire (Voltaire network), the french "investigative news network", whose big boss Thierry Meyssan first launched the conspiracy theory on 9/11 (no plane on the Pentagon, inside job, controlled demolition,...), currently sez that the London bombings are part of a strategy of tension by the US and the Uk... and that the real perps are of course the evil puppetmasters of the White House.
Proof includes the training exercise that took part at the same time, the location of the bombs and the doctored CCTV footage.

This in addition to their usual stuff (Israel behind bombings in iraq, Zarqawi an american puppet with his deeds done on behalf of the coallition, Benedict XVI hand in glove with GWB,...)

They are left wing loonies, hysterically anti-christian, and while the voltaire Network had some good press before 9/11 (it even provided material for some parlementary investigation), it is now in full PCT mode, but remain influential in some circles (it is not viewed as conspiracy theory, but as dissident investigative work).

Exist also in english (for KOS readers), in arabic (for Zarq fans) and in spanish (for Hugo).
Posted by: anonymous5089   2005-07-30 15:52  

#5  Wow, turn this diptard into a export product to BF Arabia. Please UK, get a clue. If this person is typical of the average "moderate muslim" they must go back to islamland or interment. No choice any more people.

Dave D's #6
6. EXPULSION & QUARANTINE- Expel all Muslims from the U.S., make the practice of Islam within our borders a criminal offense, and refuse visas-- even for the briefest of visits-- to all Muslims and all citizens from Islamic countries. Substitute UK for US. We are getting there.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-07-30 15:42  

#4  Why the very picture of a modern moderate muzzie
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-30 14:47  

#3  The leaders like this asshat need to go. The others will get the message and STFU, or they will get ye olde heave ho, too. They can preach their brand of sickness until the goats come home in Pakistan.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-07-30 11:51  

#2  "Muslim bashing seems to be more earnest than the need for national unity and harmony. Terrorists can be anybody - we will have to see [whether the bombers are Muslims]."

EXACTLY!!! I knew all along it was either disgruntled soccer fans or joooos. Mossad, I figure.

I see his point. It's unlikely that it was muslims. Islam is the religion of pieces peace.

Seriously, this is the crap the gets said in PUBLIC by these a-holes. What is the dialogue among muslims that doesn't make it to the light of day? I'm sure it's all denial, blame and rationalization. They're simply not able to look at their own failings.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2005-07-30 11:40  

#1  His comments shocked senior police officers.

Just proves that they've not been paying attention.
Posted by: AzCat   2005-07-30 11:29  

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