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Britain
London, Madrid Bombings Differ
2005-08-01
Spain's intelligence chief said in an interview published Sunday that this month's terrorist attacks in London differed from last year's Madrid train bombings in their apparent coordination. Alberto Saiz, the director of the National Intelligence Center, told the daily El Pais that similarities between the attacks were limited to "their outward appearance" and targeting of transport networks. "At that point, the differences start," Saiz was quoted as saying. The July 7 group of London bombers was "small, just four people — less visible than the Madrid one."
Two cells so far, with a third supposed to be in the works. That makes nine and probably another five or six if the current report is accurate. Besides the cannon fodder, there's going to be a support network, and we've seen that the lines extend back to Pakistan for the training and probably the logistics. And Osman made a call to Soddy Arabia just before the operation. So, yeah, there are differences, but I think they're going to turn out to be superficial.
"Two weeks later, they try a second episode of the same attack — obviously, the perpetrators are not the same," Saiz said.
The perpetrators in the first attack were burned — they couldn't be used again. The interesting part will come when they trace the support network. Since the explosives were the same flavor, I'm guessing it's the same support network...
"In contrast to Madrid, this gives us the feeling that they are coordinated with other groups or have direction from above — and that there is a plan," he added. "This is not an isolated group that decides to act on its own account — the decision comes from above."
And that didn't apply to Madrid? What'd I miss there?
The March, 2004 bombings of commuter trains in Madrid killed 191 people and injured more than 1,500. The July 7 suicide bombings in London killed 52 people on three subway trains and a bus; the botched bombing attempts on similar targets July 21 rattled Londoners' nerves but took no lives. The Madrid attacks "surprised us all in terms of their form," Saiz told El Pais. The people behind them "formed a local group, with no apparent connection to the leadership of al-Qaida, at least no direct connection."
Control and support came from Morocco, rather than from Pakistan.
"There was, as far as we know, no chief of operations who said to a terrorist: `come to Madrid and carry out an attack.'"
Somebody said "We're here in Madrid and we're ready. Got any good ideas?"
Saiz said Spanish authorities have had a "constant exchange of information" with their British counterparts over recent weeks. "A number of lines of investigation have been opened and closed in Spain, always at British request," he said.
Posted by:Fred

#2  I will say "the islamicists" JFM
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-08-01 15:50  

#1  In fact whne you look carefully at it there were some surprising "mistakes" made by the Spanish bombers. They abandon a van with some explosives under the siege near one of the railway stations and they forget a Kuranic K7 in it. So when the cops search the van, it nearly screams "I was used by the bad guys and there are Islamists".

Then one of the bombs fails to explode or more exactly, was found unconnected and the mobile phone had his card on it (unneeded for triggering the explosion) and this card leds the cops to the shop and to first arrests well before elections.

But the natural hypothesis after the bombings was that it was ETA (who has made sweveral attempts at mass-terrorism in the last years), so natural that even the pro-ETA types thought it was ETA. And if people had continued thinking it was ETA it would have led to a massive victory for Rajoy (Aznar's designated successor). It was thus essential for the plan that, eithr with theior consent or sacrified by the mastermind, the bombers were discovered and arrested, and this, before the elections.

When leaving isolation, one of the arrested bombers first question was "Who has won the elections"
Posted by: JFM   2005-08-01 08:23  

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