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Britain
Radicalism makes way to skepticism at London mosque
2005-08-29
Invocations of radical Islam no longer resonate in Finsbury Park mosque as it puts its militant past -- including its links with the September 11 attacks in the United States in 2001 -- behind it.
Got rid of the bearded bully boyz, did you? A wise move...
"A new beginning for the mosque," says a banner that hangs over the doorway of the north London mosque, which Friday drew Muslims of all ages, backgrounds and dress. But in the wake of the London bombings last month that killed 56 people, including four apparent Islamist suicide bombers, there is a degree of skepticism over the government's attempts to clamp down on radicalism.
"Nope. Nope. That'll never work."
Once the lair of hook-handed cleric Abu Hamza, the mosque -- whose more notorious worshippers have included "shoe bomber" Richard Reid and Zacarias Moussaoui, the only person charged in the United States in connection with September 11 -- reopened under new administration in February. Some 500 attend the mosque on average, mostly Muslims of Somalian, north African, Bangladeshi and Pakistani background, said Mustafa al-Mansur, the mosque's spokesman, who is himself from Bangladesh. "There are two types of people. There are people who stopped coming because of the previous management because they didn't feel safe or comfortable, and there are people who didn't care," he told AFP. "We don't see any recognizable faces any more," he added. "Since Abu Hamza left, the mosque was closed for several months. When Abu Hamza left there was a sigh of relief... Even some Abu Hamza supporters thanked us."
I guess they would. As faithful minions, they'd have to look at him...
Egyptian-born Abu Hamza was detained by the British authorities in May 2004 on a US demand for his extradition to face charges of aiding Al-Qaeda and setting up an alleged terrorist training camp in Oregon state. He had already lost his grip on the mosque, in January 2003, when police raided the premises, leaving him to preach on the sidewalk. He denies involvement in terrorism; his lieutenants have slipped out of sight.
"Mahmoud, da boss has lost his grip on da mosque! What should we do?"
"Let's go skulk somewhere, Ahmed!"
In his day, Finsbury Park mosque saw a number of would-be terrorist suspects pass through its doors, including Reid, Moussaoui -- once branded the 20th September 11 hijacker -- and Djamel Beghal, convicted in France for plotting to attack US interests in 2002. This past Friday a Pakistani imam, Souhaib Hassan, preached to his fellow Muslims in English -- seasoned with quotations in Arabic -- on morality and the qualities one needs in order to marry in the Islamic faith. "The mosque does not set an agenda for Friday prayers (but) we try to make sure that whoever we bring here to speak respects certain boundaries," Mansur explained. "I think Muslims can police themselves within their religious practice," he added, criticising what he called "draconian rules" set out by Prime Minister Tony Blair in the wake of the London bombings.
"I mean, we've done such a good job of it to this point!"
Those measures notably include deportation of foreign-born Muslims deemed to be sympathetic to terrorism.
I'm sure Draco would be proud. But he'd also consider it mere common sense. Draco, in fact, would probably have had them bumped off.
Outside the mosque Friday, two members of the Islamist party Hizb-ut-Tahrir collected signatures on a petition to protest the government's measures and Blair's intended ban on their movement. "Tony Blair has made himself a laughing stock," said Mansur of the prime minister who was already unpopular among many Muslims in Britain for having sided with the US invasion of Iraq in 2003.
So why aren't you laughing, Turban Top?
"He is the new sheikh for the Muslims. You will hear names like 'mufti Blair' or 'sheikh Blair'."
He likes being addressed as "effendi." When you're granted an audience, don't forget to bump your forehead on the floor three times before approaching him.
Mansur cast doubt on the effectiveness of Blair's strategy, saying that if Muslims are "radicalising", it is not because of people hearing fiery sermons, "but because of what they see in the media".
All the dynamite boyz who used to hang on Captain Hook's every word were mere coincidence.
"Muslims will sympathize with other Muslims in the world. They look for a channel to vent their anger."
Posted by:Fred

#4  They look for a channel to vent their anger.

Yeah, I think we were already well aware of that.
Posted by: tu3031   2005-08-29 09:51  

#3  The "new" attendees are the same people who attended when it was a "radical" mosque. Only what they're saying in English has changed, as far as we can tell.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-08-29 09:44  

#2  The bombings in London are not terrorism but militants -- a reminder of that you too, pig England, must condemn all terrorism, everywhere. Tally, Blo.
Posted by: Snunter Threreper9435   2005-08-29 07:49  

#1  Cap'n Hook was removed two years ago, but don't not forget the recent Finsbury mosque links with the July 7 and 21 london bombers. Call me sceptical for questioning whether the mosque has become a center for peace and love for the infidels.
Posted by: ed   2005-08-29 00:59  

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