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| Bad guys go underground in the face of deportation threats |
| 2005-08-30 |
| A NUMBER of Islamic militants on the list of undesirables to be expelled this week have reportedly tried to go into hiding before the arrests begin. Undercover agents kept watch on the individuals over the weekend as Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, signed the first deportation documents. There are thought to be more than 100 names on the list. One cleric, understood to be listed, was seen being smuggled out of his home at the weekend. Another, the Saudi-born Muhammad al-Massari, has been in contact with lawyers about how to block an arrest. At the weekend he removed a website from the internet that showed the murder of three British soldiers by an Iraqi suicide bomber. Dr al-Massari blamed a government âinquisitionâ for having to strip his website of controversial content. Abu Qatada, who has been described as al-Qaedaâs spiritual ambassador in Europe, is another on the list. The Home Secretary said that he will pursue anyone who âfoments, justifies or glorifies terrorist violenceâ, through organisations such as the Muslim Council. The Muslim Association has told him privately that forced expulsions will be âcounterproductiveâ. It says that it played no part in helping Mr Clarke to draw up the list and wants to know how the Home Office monitored the preachers. Mohammad Shahid Raza, who trains imams at the Muslim College, said: âThe authorities must be transparent about what they are doing and give reasons why they wish to remove these preachers, or they could face resistance from our youth. We need to know so we can explain to our communities who may be in agreement.â Mr Clarkeâs rules are aimed at individuals and not whole organisations, such as Hizb-ut-Tahrir, although ministers are looking at ways to ban such groups. Lawyers for the first ten men to be picked up as part of the crackdown, and held as a threat to public safety, have given warning that it could take up to three years and cost the taxpayers £3 million for the courts to rule if the detainees can be deported. |
| Posted by:Dan Darling |
| #6 The implied threat: âThe authorities must be transparent about what they are doing and give reasons why they wish to remove these preachers, or they could face resistance from our youth. We need to know so we can explain to our communities who may be in agreement.â I'll relate something that happened today - there's a free newspaper given away at many underground and overground railway stops in the UK called 'Metro' - it has its own dispenser so the guys can drop off 100-200 copies at a time and people just take a copy before getting on the train. It is *extremely* popular - virtually all the people on the train I travel in on has a copy. However, today there were an amount of BNP (British National Party) leaflets that someone had put in amongst the mass of Metro papers. It showed a picture of one of the bottles that the 21/7 bombers had wanted to detonate (lots of nails etc) and an amount of anti-Islamic content. This was at 7:45am, ie not some unemployed paid thug. I think Mr Raza ought to reflect on this - the patience of the British people is *not* limitless and making veiled threats might work with ZaNuLabour but not with the general public. |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2005-08-30 17:28 |
| #5 The Lawyers don't mention most of that cost is their salires as the deportees are all on the dole or in jail anyhow. They get paid out of the public purse. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2005-08-30 16:03 |
| #4 fine - bring out the Islamic brownshirt youths - head cracking time and expulsion. Rid the cancer. I don't consider it "counterproductive" |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-30 10:48 |
| #3 Lawyers...have given warning that it could take up to three years and cost the taxpayers £3 million for the courts to rule if the detainees can be deported. Ha! Like they give a shit how much it costs the "taxpayers"... |
| Posted by: tu3031 2005-08-30 09:45 |
| #2 This will be interesting. We all know that the Islamonutz have become quite skilled, with the assistance of native seditionists, of course, at using our civil institutions against us. Now the gauntlet is down. Will the UK set the example needed to trump civil laws with national security laws? It's obvious which is more important - to sane people, anyway, but it remains to be seen which will prevail. C'mon, Blair - make your mark on history by protecting your people. Other nations are watching - waiting for you to open the gates of reason. |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-30 07:20 |
| #1 "Lawyers for the first ten men to be picked up as part of the crackdown, and held as a threat to public safety, have given warning that it could take up to three years and cost the taxpayers £3 million for the courts to rule if the detainees can be deported." Not if they are put on a military aircraft in the middle of the night along with their lawyers it won't. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2005-08-30 02:47 |