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Home Front: Politix
Saint Hillary to Mother Sheehan - Shove It
2005-09-23
More popcorn, please...
Hillary Clinton: Peace Mom Wrong on Iraq War

2008 presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton scrambled yesterday to put some distance between herself and Cindy Sheehan, after word of her private meeting with the anti-American "Peace Mom" was reported by the Village Voice.
While Sheehan herself gushed afterwards that her Hillary sitdown went "fabulously," the former first lady sounded a good deal less enthusiastic.

While Sheehan has called the U.S. liberation of Iraq "B - - sh - t," Clinton said: "I happen to think that fighting for freedom is a noble cause. There are lots of things wrong with how Bush did it. I believe we should have gone through with the inspection process which we did and acted through the UN which we did. But I believe that standing up against someone as dangerous as Saddam was a good goal.”

Hillary also rebuffed Sheehan's demand that she lead the charge to get the U.S. out of Iraq ASAP. "I think it is a much more complicated situation," Clinton explained. "I don’t think it’s the right time to withdraw."

In comments guaranteed to infuriate the Moveon.org crowd, Clinton began by noting that she had met earlier in the day with about 20 moms from American Gold Star Mothers, who vehemently disagreed with Sheehan.
"My bottom line is that I don’t want their sons to die in vain," she told the Voice.
I'm gonna have to check DU after work, I bet they are in meltdown mode.
Posted by:Raj

#12  Sister Souljah II: the Sequel.
Posted by: Mike   2005-09-23 23:40  

#11  Lol. That's what I truly respect about you, lh - you look for the best in (almost?) everyone - and you actually mean it. That's a tough thing to pull off sometimes, but you persist. Good on ya, bro.

I happen to think that we are beset with a collection of grossly unprincipled calculating raw naked ambition vultures (Hillary, Skeery, McCain, Biden, Clark, et al) circling the Big Chair, but that's just me.

I hope you never become a cynic, you're always refreshing and fair-minded. Those "Yay, Hillary!" posts make me want to punch out my monitor, lol, but hey - that's what makes horse races. Kudos. :)
Posted by: .com   2005-09-23 17:17  

#10  From a purely, political inside-baseball viewpoint it was damn near brilliant.

She must have a huge amount of faith in her base to hold their nose and cross the room in Iowa.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-09-23 17:05  

#9  wow!. Hillary exceeded expectations. Good for her. But its great you guys keep talking trash about her = thats the only way to drown out the Kossites and Deaniacs who hate her.

And from what i hear, the Deaniacs are starting to focus on Wesley Clark. Feh!
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-09-23 16:42  

#8  Here are a few comments on Hillary from DU threads:
"she's not the messiah folks...she's a DLC centrist establishment Democratic socialite of the upper-class rich of this nation."

"She's not with the people...she's not concerned with doing "the right thing"...and people should stop placing faith in her to "lead us out of the wilderness"."

"Why look, she took money from the PACs of both General Electric and Northrop Grumman. Gee, there couldn't be any conflict of interest between those wanting to continue the war and receiving "defense" contractor money at the same time, right?"

"Hillary Clinton: war criminal: Her whole-hearted embrace of the slaughter in Iraq places her on equal moral footing with Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush. It is one thing to have been grotesquely wrong about Iraq, as Hillary was from the start. But to compound that failure by continuing, in the face of all evidence, to support this murderous war...
...well, Hillary, you're simply a collaborator."

"Referring to insurgent strategy concerning a date for U.S. withdrawal: "I think that would be like a green light to go ahead and just bide your time," the New York Democrat said.

What, exactly, would it mean for the insurgents to "bide their time"? Does that mean they would hold off making major attacks until after U.S. troops left? If so, wouldn't that give reconstruction efforts and the fledgling Iraqi government the opportunity to make some progress?

The last thing the insurgents want is to let up and give their foes a chance to establish stability or something approaching security and normality. The "bide your time" argument is a transparently illogical excuse for keeping a permanent U.S. presence there. What Miz Clinton and others are trying to establish is a conventional wisdom that rejects any firm committment to exit Iraq."

"Sad but true. Future of world peace lies with US empire collapsing ASAP. And the future of American people lies with progressive anti-corporate forces left of the corrupt two-party system."

And these are the sane ones.
Posted by: Steve   2005-09-23 16:06  

#7  (unless they go suicidal and put a McGovern type liberal thru)

That's just what they'll do. Move.on's leadership will try to stick with her, cuz they are all old Clinton people. But, Kos readers and the DU types will savage her and back the most far left person running. Right now that looks like Al Gore. True believers don't like it if you deviate from what they believe in, even if it is to try and get votes.
Posted by: Steve   2005-09-23 15:22  

#6  This is pure Clinton triangulating for better political position. I wonder if she learned it from Bill or if it was her that taught it to Bill. She knows the "middle" is to her right, so she's saying what the polls do: we need to win the war that we are in, so she plays that way. And she also knows that Daily Idiot Kos and Moveon will ultimately end up kissing her ass because they have no other horses in this race (unless they go suicidal and put a McGovern type liberal thru). And for now, their howls provide a valuable "cover" for her leftism.
Posted by: Oldspook   2005-09-23 15:04  

#5  Hillary is playing both sides. Supporting the war (to appear Hawkish and play to the right) while denouncing the time and manner (for the Move-Ons).
Posted by: JackAssFestival   2005-09-23 14:48  

#4  You think MOMMY SHITHEAD is gonna CRY NOW!!!!
WHAT A BUNCH OF LOONY LOOOOOOSSERS
Posted by: ARMYGUY   2005-09-23 14:06  

#3  Truly the Hildabeast is a master of saying nothing concrete extremely convincingly.
Posted by: Secret Master   2005-09-23 13:55  

#2  Your bottom line is something I dont ever want to see, hippo hips.
Posted by: Grunter   2005-09-23 13:04  

#1  There are lots of things wrong with how Bush did it.

Because perfection is attainable if only everyone voted Democrat!
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-09-23 12:47  

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