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Islamic 'converts to peace' found fighting in Iraq
2005-10-09
Let the debates intensify ....


A pioneering scheme to fight Islamist terror by encouraging jailed extremists to rethink their grasp of the Koran is under fire after claims that some of its "converts" have taken up arms again.

The project, launched in Yemen three years ago by an Islamic scholar, Judge Hamoud al-Hitar, has been followed closely by the British Government, which has twice invited him to lecture senior anti-terrorism officials at Scotland Yard.

The effectiveness of his technique - a theological "duel" in which he and the prisoners quote Koranic texts at each other - is in doubt, however, after reports that some al-Qaeda militants freed under the scheme have been caught fighting coalition forces in Iraq.

Among those released is the former chief bodyguard of Osama bin Laden, Nasser Al-Bahri, who has admitted that his sessions with Judge al-Hitar did nothing to diminish his belief in the leader of al-Qaeda. Instead, he suggested that many militants simply pretended to repent to gain quick release from jail.

His claims, made in a BBC documentary to be broadcast on Thursday, will give ammunition to those who doubt the possibility of re-educating extremists.

In Britain, the Metropolitan Police plans to give Muslim prisoners in London jails religious "mentors" to remind them of the values of mainstream Islam.

The Yemeni scheme was launched amid fears that al-Qaeda was attempting to turn the mountainous Arabian peninsula state into a base for terrorist attacks, aided by locals who had returned there after fighting in Afghanistan.

In October 2000 two suicide bombers blew up the American destroyer, USS Cole, in Yemen's main port, Aden, killing 17 American sailors. Other smaller scale attacks followed over the next two years.

The absence of further violence since then is cited by Judge al-Hitar as evidence of the success of his scheme.

The Yemeni authorities say the scheme's biggest success came after one of its converts tipped them off on the whereabouts of their most wanted al-Qaeda suspect, Mohammed al-Ahdal.

So far, 364 young men have been freed on parole under the scheme, which also gives them state help to start a new life.

Reports about Judge al-Hitar's achievements led to his first invitation to Britain from the Foreign Office in February last year, soon after a visit by the Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, to Yemen. Al-Hitar talked to Metropolitan Police officers and Home Office officials and returned three months later to speak to Special Branch.

Whitehall's attention followed concern that some Muslim prisoners, such as the shoe bomber Richard Reid, were being radicalised in British jails.

Posted by:lotp

#8  the empty sound when you hit their heads with a rifle butt
Posted by: Frank G   2005-10-09 21:34  

#7  We had our ways of weeding out the "true converts" from those looking for our support in getting out early ("Jail house religion").

How does one tell, Ptah?
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-10-09 21:05  

#6  At the time I first heard this, I supported al-Hitar, mainly because I felt bound to try non-violent means of turning these men from the violent side of Islam. I used to be in a prison ministry, and we had a lot of success emphasizing the "Higher Power", and I hoped al-Hitar equal success.

But then again, we were teaching Christianity, not Islam.

At the same time, one cannot expect 100% success: Our failure rate was 15% (3 out of 20), and this article says "some" had taken up arms again. What percentage makes up "some" is open to debate.

We had our ways of weeding out the "true converts" from those looking for our support in getting out early ("Jail house religion"). A Jail Ministry version of "trust, but verify". Seems that al-Hitar went the bleeding heart liberal approach of "we trust you, and won't offend you by trying to verify."
Posted by: Ptah   2005-10-09 14:01  

#5  why would the chief body guard of osama be let go in the first place?
Posted by: Hupemp Thremp9092   2005-10-09 12:53  

#4  The British would be less enamored of this sort of debate if they ever read the book. The motion "Mohammed approves the slaying of the infidel oppressors" is going to carry everytime.
Posted by: Baba Tutu   2005-10-09 12:28  

#3  al-Hitar's claim reminds me of proponents of fad diets.

One or two people lose weight and the diet promoter uses their testimony again and again to hype the product.
Posted by: mhw   2005-10-09 11:45  

#2  only the gullible or delusional could be conned into believing a Islamic murderer could be talked out of his profession.
Posted by: Red Dog   2005-10-09 11:20  

#1  Hang 'em from lampposts. Solves the problem.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-10-09 11:10  

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