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Home Front: Culture Wars
Cigarette Prohibition Begins
2005-11-14
At Boise State University, smoking is banned in the buildings and they must have one smoke-free entrance where smokers are not allowed to huddle in the doorway for one last puff before going inside. But to some, that's not enough.

The university's head of health services, Ferdinand Schlapper, wants to make smoking taboo in every corner of campus, including grounds and vehicles. If successful, Boise State would become the first four-year school to completely ban smoking, according to the College Tobacco Prevention Resource in Newton, Mass. "High-achieving students would be drawn to a healthier learning environment," said Schlapper, who thinks the entire state also should be smoke-free. "I want to eradicate this from the planet."

Schlapper's long-term plan, to be discussed Monday at a university cabinet meeting, would ban smoking everywhere on the 175-acre campus. A vote was not expected Monday and the plan would take months to implement if it was adopted.

He polled faculty, students and staff at the 18,600-student school and reported only about 34 percent support that idea. "We continue to pick on smokers in a policy like this; it goes a little too far," said political science professor Jim Weatherby, a nonsmoker. But 92 percent "agree that the desire to breathe clean air should take precedence over a smoker's desire to smoke," Schlapper said.

About 9 percent of students and 15 percent of non-faculty staff smoke, Schlapper said. Only three percent of the faculty smokes. No other four-year college or university in the country bans smoking, said Melissa Murphy of the College Tobacco Prevention Resource. About 20 two-year, nonresidential, technical or community colleges are 100 percent tobacco-free, according to an anti-smoking group, Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights in Berkeley, Calif. "A lot of schools consider themselves to be 100 percent smoke-free, but it usually doesn't include the entire campus grounds; it's usually just campus buildings," Murphy said.
Posted by:Anonymoose

#17  I don't have a problem with smokers. Smoke a fat-boy out of each side of your mouth 24x7 for all I care. Providing smokers (and other high risk groups - folks that can't put a fork down) with the same benefits, rates and access to medicare, medicade, and social security is what I don't agree with....duhhhh.
Posted by: Besoeker   2005-11-14 22:17  

#16  I live in Idaho. It won't happen beyond campus gounds. It would be like forbidding red meat.
Posted by: Beau   2005-11-14 21:37  

#15  "I want to eradicate this from the planet."

That's not your job. Stick to your damned job, and leave everybody else alone.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-11-14 17:04  

#14  Barb,

The Peoples Republic of Washington (state) recently passed an initiative banning smoking in public buildings (including bars and resturants) and withint 25 feet of doorways. It is debatable on how [much] this would be enforced. Should be interesting to watch.

As a ex-smoker (after about 30 years...) I can somewhat relate to the smokers desire to be able to relax and light up a smoke. I think banning all smoking everywhere goes a bit too far in nannyhood. I think perhaps a compromise would be desinated smoking areas like we have here for hospitals (either away from buildings or where the smoke is exhausted approprately.)

On the other hand I dont think they (smokers) should have the right to force their choice (to poison themselves) on me or require that I pay for their health problems. Nor do I expect others to pay for any smoking-derived problems I have after 30 years of smoking.

And Sorry about your wife CH :((.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-11-14 15:58  

#13  He polled faculty, students and staff at the 18,600-student school and reported only about 34 percent support that idea.

I'm no math wiz, but I think 34% is a little less then a majority. Suppose 34% favored guns in their rooms? Think Ferdinand would be all gung ho to implement that?
Posted by: tu3031   2005-11-14 15:55  

#12  Cheaderhead - I'm sorry to hear about your wife.

But since cigarette packs have been required by the government to have health warnings since the 1960's....

The US and state governments won't ban cigarettes - they want the tax revenues too much.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-11-14 15:41  

#11  Frank, just because I would like to see them banned doesn't mean I expect them to be. Unfortunately tobacco's use in society is too ingrained to go away completely. I do understand the effects of prohibition. Just look at Sandy Arabia and the constant war on booze after 14 centuries. But at the same time if you contarct lung cancer in this day and age don't sit there and claim that you had no idea that tobacco was dangerous.
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2005-11-14 15:13  

#10  Football fans understand, that when it comes to Boise State, expect the unsual. Please don't adjust your sets.
Posted by: Super Hose   2005-11-14 14:36  

#9  BTW - Ferdinand Schlapper should be smacked down BIG TIME. Nanny state bastard, should have his ass kicked daily just for that name.
Posted by: Frank G   2005-11-14 14:30  

#8  I'm sorry about that as well, CH. If she'd died of alcohol consumption, would it be OK to ban that for everyone else? A legal product should not be banned. Controlled, if necessary (age of user, location to avoid disruption/hazard to anyone else..).
Posted by: Frank G   2005-11-14 14:28  

#7  The big C took my wife this year.

I'm sorry to hear that, CH :-(
Posted by: 2b   2005-11-14 13:15  

#6  "I want to eradicate this from the planet."

First BSU...then Boise...on to all of Idaho...next the USA...then the entire world...HARAGAYEEEEE!
Posted by: DepotGuy   2005-11-14 13:11  

#5  "I want to eradicate this from the planet."

Sieg Heil, buddy...
Posted by: Raj   2005-11-14 12:43  

#4  They probably ought to amend their statements a little. Specifically, it's not cigarettes that they have a problem with. It's tobacco. There's a lot of overlap between the Cig-Nazis and the Legalize Marijuana crowd.
Posted by: BH   2005-11-14 11:46  

#3  I would like to see cigarettes banned in the US and all of the production sold in the ME so that lung cancer rates there would go up. It is a vile filthy habit IMO. I have cause for my prejudice. The big C took my wife this year.
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2005-11-14 10:58  

#2  Schlapper sez, "It's never too late to make Socialist Lemmings out of individual students."
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2005-11-14 10:51  

#1  "High-achieving students would be drawn to a healthier learning environment," said Schlapper, who thinks the entire state also should be smoke-free. "I want to eradicate this from the planet."

My body, my choice, my ass.
Posted by: BH   2005-11-14 10:47  

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