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Boeing to build bigger 747 to challenge Airbus
2005-11-15
Boeing Co, the world’s second-largest maker of commercial aircraft, committed to building a bigger and more efficient version of the 747 to challenge Airbus SAS’ A380 in the market for planes seating more than 400 passengers. Boeing, based in Chicago, today announced firm orders for the cargo version of the new 747 from Luxembourg’s Cargolux Airlines International SA and Japan’s Nippon Cargo Airlines Co for a total of 18 planes worth US$5 billion (US$1 = RM3.78) at list prices, or about US$278 million for each plane. Airbus’s A380 passenger plane lists for US$280 million and the freighter version for US$300 million.

The new plane will borrow technology developed for Boeing’s new 787 jet, including General Electric Co engines to provide 20 per cent lower trip costs, Boeing said. The plane will have 34 more seats and carry 15 more tonnes of freight than the current 747. The new technologies and bigger size will make it more of a challenge to the A380, which is about 35 per cent bigger than the current Boeing 747 and cost US$12 billion to develop. “This means a really bad year for Airbus just got much worse,” said Doug McVitie, managing director of Arran Aerospace, an aerospace consulting company in Dinan, France. “For Boeing to be able to say they’re going to have 20 per cent better economics than the A380 means Boeing is taking the high ground.”
Bwahahahaha!

Shares of European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co, the owner of Toulouse, France-based Airbus, fell as much as 19 cents, or 0.6 per cent, to e29.68 (e 1 = RM4.42) and were down 18 cents in Paris. EADS has gained 39 per cent this year compared with a 28 per cent advance for Boeing. Airbus said earlier this year that it is running six months late on production and deliveries of the A380, which will result in paying unspecified financial penalties to several airlines. Boeing also is outstripping Airbus with new orders this year, powered by demand for the 787 Dreamliner.

Cargolux, based in Luxembourg, ordered 10 747-8 freighters and will take delivery of the first in the third quarter of 2009. It also holds purchase rights for 10 additional planes. Cargolux currently operates an all-Boeing fleet of 13 747-400 freighters. Nippon Cargo Airlines ordered eight 747-8 freighters and will receive its first airplane in late 2009. The airline also acquired options for six additional airplanes. Nippon Cargo currently operates 13 747 freighters and has six more 747-400Fs on order.
Shouldn't need a special runway to land them on like the AirBusted monster requires
“If the investment for Boeing is an incremental cost in comparison to what Airbus spent on the A380, then it’s worth the risk-reward for them,” said Will Mackie, an analyst at Mainfirst Bank AG in London.
“With the 747 Advanced, they can maintain their position in the marketplace, disrupt the competitive balance with Airbus, and keep a full product lineup,” he said.
Posted by:Steve

#8  Going with what you know? Airlines know Boeing. They know Airbus too. They are picking Boeing.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom   2005-11-15 22:50  

#7  From the press release:

The 747-8 also fits easily in today's aviation infrastructure, flying into more than 210 airports worldwide without additional, expensive infrastructure changes required.

The 747 freighter family currently constitutes more than half of the world's total freighter capacity. Boeing freighters of all models comprise more than 90 percent of the total worldwide freighter lift.

Boeing forecasts the need for about 900 airplanes -- passengers and freighters -- in the 400-plus-seat segment over the next 20 years. Boeing also forecasts that large widebody freighters (65 metric tons and above in capacity) will comprise 34 percent of the freighter market by 2024.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-11-15 19:50  

#6  And, IIRC, it was illegal as hell and scared the poor FAA guy to death, lol.
Posted by: .com   2005-11-15 19:48  

#5  If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.

If you cannot do full deflection flight control applications without the vertical stabilizer falling off, then you have a POS airframe. Tex Johnson, when he did that roll stunt over Lake Union in 1955 with the 707 dash 80 prototype, brought in more orders than any other advertizing, I am told.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-11-15 19:46  

#4  And the first order came from an Euro company; sweet.
Posted by: Whineck Anginemp3168   2005-11-15 18:05  

#3  Boeing press release with photos.
Posted by: 3dc   2005-11-15 17:31  

#2  Airbus said earlier this year that it is running six months late on production and deliveries of the A380, which will result in paying unspecified financial penalties to several airlines.

Not to worry. A European government subsidy will see to it that Airbus doesn't suffer financially as a result of having to pay penalties...
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-11-15 17:27  

#1  Bwahahahaha, indeed!

I can't say exactly why, mainly cuz Fred has limited bandwidth, but I really don't like Govt-run consortiums competing against private businesses. Just sorta sticks in my craw. Love to see 'em fall on their asses.
Posted by: .com   2005-11-15 16:56  

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