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Afghanistan-Pak-India
Quake survivors choose death over ‘dishonour’
2005-11-19
SHANGLA: With bitterly cold winter about to heap more suffering on earthquake surivivors camped in this mountainous region of Pakistan, Abdul Hameed faces a stark choice: death or dishonour. Hameed, who lost his home in last month’s devastating temblor, says he would rather his family die from the cold than descend from the 10,000-feet high peak and risk being exposed to strangers at relief camps in the disaster zone. In the deeply conservative rural and tribal villages where women strictly adhere to wearing a “purdah”, or veil, it is considered a sin if they are seen by people they do not know, even rescue workers. “We are Pushtoon people. For us, the women’s honour matters more than life,” Hameed, 28, told AFP at Meira tented camp, which is believed to be the biggest in Shangla district. “What will I do with life if our women are dishonoured down in the valley? Clerics told people up in the hilltop that there is no respect for women (down there),” Hameed said. He said his mother, wife, and sister remained in the mountains. “We feel safer with them in the hills,” he said.

A cleric told the survivors on the peak that fleeing the disaster-hit areas was “un-Islamic”, 35-year-old Bakht Taj, a survivor at the tented village, told AFP. “I am not coming down simply because our women’s dignity will come under threat. I know winter is very harsh. I have lost my home to the quake and I know it is not possible to live in a tent in harsher cold weather,” he said. “But this is not question of life. This is the question of our women’s honour.”
Posted by:Fred

#19  Now if only the survivors would cut off THEIR testicles after losing ( family, goats, home, fill in the blank) we could maybe get us a two-fer...
Posted by: USN Ret.   2005-11-19 21:53  

#18  What a pleasant surprise to see stupidity actually be painful for a change. While I feel sorry for the women who must submit to this insanity, the sooner all these morons are dead the better. There is no helping those who cannot adapt to circumstances.

The clerics who have advised these idjits against heading downslope remind me of union negotiators who adamantly refuse to accept any wage cuts and suddenly find the factory closed down forever. These intransigent imams are about to see their flocks shrink rather dramatically. It's comforting to know that they won't have nearly as many sheep to program next spring.

As to the survivors refusing our food aid. Good news all around, let those who hate us the most starve to f&%king death. Serves 'em right.
Posted by: Zenster   2005-11-19 21:38  

#17  Inshal'lah assholes
Posted by: Frank G   2005-11-19 21:20  

#16  I thought all this to be very inspiring... think of the poems... the songs... oops! songs are bad bad bad! it would be more inspiring if princess Osama bin M. Laden, Zawahiri, Omar the one-eyed wonder and their pet pig Zarqawi move on top of that there 10,000' mountain area and tough it out with their pashtoon baboons this winter. Now, that would be inspiring!
Posted by: Fun Dung Poo   2005-11-19 20:45  

#15  It is dishonourable to live when one is so stupid...!
Posted by: OnlySaneAnonymouseLeft   2005-11-19 20:08  

#14  The sad thing is that is probably not the women making this choice. The men will survive.
Posted by: Unavimp Whainter8073   2005-11-19 17:57  

#13  Natural selection is our friend. Now if only Kennedy, Kerry, Gore, Pelosi, Carter, and the Clintons had such high principles...
Posted by: Darrell   2005-11-19 16:27  

#12  Not to be picky with the site owner's very own choices, but wouldn't the article be better served by a lemmings graphic? There is about the same will-to-survive quotient... Or perhaps that double honor-dignity meter? It's because I'm sophisticated and nuanced, you understand.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2005-11-19 13:04  

#11  Hameed, who lost his home in last month’s devastating temblor, says he would rather his family die from the cold than descend from the 10,000-feet high peak and risk being exposed to strangers at relief camps in the disaster zone.

Gawd is indeed grate.

Posted by: Shipman   2005-11-19 12:48  

#10  We are talking RRRFSP here, the new political party of the frontier provinces.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-11-19 10:48  

#9  Improving the world, through Islam.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2005-11-19 10:20  

#8  Jim Jones, Islamic style.
Posted by: plainslow   2005-11-19 10:09  

#7  Islam has no Honour for women.
Posted by: newc   2005-11-19 09:35  

#6  But this is not question of life. This is the question of our women’s honour.”

Your families frozen carcasses will thank you after your return from the nice, warm tents down below.
Posted by: Charles   2005-11-19 07:43  

#5  Some people are just to stupid to live.
Posted by: raptor   2005-11-19 07:43  

#4  According to this BBC article

At times, even excellent quality beef, clearly marked halal, was turned down by the recipients because it was delivered by the Americans, such is the mistrust of the United States here.
Posted by: john   2005-11-19 06:39  

#3  Hameed, who lost his home in last month’s devastating temblor, says he would rather his family die from the cold than descend from the 10,000-feet high peak and risk being exposed to strangers at relief camps in the disaster zone.

Fine. There are other more reasonable people that deserve the assistance that's available. The sooner these types die off, the better off everybody else will be.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-11-19 04:53  

#2  â€œWe are Pushtoon people. For us, the women’s honour matters more than life,”

Hameed said. He said his mother, wife, and sister remained in the mountains. “We feel safer with them in the hills,” he said.

I have to agree, I believe my family will be safer too, if all Paki Pushtoon people stay at 10,000 feet this winter.
Posted by: Red Dog   2005-11-19 02:17  

#1  Darwinism.
Posted by: Pappy   2005-11-19 00:45  

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