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McCain: No Compromise on Proposed Torture Ban
2005-12-06
WASHINGTON - Sen. John McCain said he won't compromise on his proposed ban on the use of torture on prisoners. He's insisting on his language that no person in U.S. custody should be subject to "cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment." McCain said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that he's met several times with the president's national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, on the issue.

While he won't compromise on the torture language, McCain said he and Hadley are in discussions "about other aspects of this to try to get an agreement." He didn't elaborate.
Posted by:Pappy

#12  When we just shrugged and gave up the fight for "Term Limits" several years ago when the issue first emerged, we gave up the Country. Now, only the demented, seething with hatred, Leftists can conjur up the gumption to carry on. But Hey, "When you smell that badly, there's no other recourse". Thanks to the MSM, even some of our own kids have turned on us. At 58, I'm healthy, fit and comfortable. I don't need the stress, but anarchy in the U.S. is upon us. I want to get it jump-started so we have the chance save OUR kids before the ultra-elites get eaten by their own. This is tough. I have always been a street-legal responsible man, Dad, husband, vet, DOD senior exec. I'm pissed.
Posted by: Asymmetrica Triangulation   2005-12-06 21:33  

#11  What news program will McCain be on next?
Posted by: Captain America   2005-12-06 18:04  

#10  POW as politican/hero are one of the more bizare legacies of Vietnam. I'm trying think of any Pols who made it big by being a POW during WWII? Anyone?
Posted by: Shipman   2005-12-06 17:30  

#9  McCain is a great American, a poor Republican, and a terrible conservative. Just another example of the zero tolerance idiocy that is sweeping the nation.
Posted by: SR-71   2005-12-06 16:20  

#8  I am so tired of McCain, why can't he just find retirement, go fishing, mow the lawn, pet the dog, whatever?
Posted by: Besoeker   2005-12-06 16:01  

#7  Hey, this is just the intro to the main event - The Unintended Consequences Show!

No "cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment." to any person in US custody?

Does that include "Tookie"?
Posted by: mojo   2005-12-06 14:50  

#6  This is what Bill Scher says about McCain.
In turn, we are better able to see through McCain's shtick: appeal to Dems and independents with candor (like yesterday on Meet The Press, when he chided Paul Wolfowitz for claiming the war would pay for itself with Iraqi oil), and with a few liberal positions such as campaign finance reform, higher fuel efficiency standards and opposition to torture.
But on the biggest issue of them all, the overall direction of our foreign policy, which affects the safety and stability of America and the world, John McCain is as right-wing as they come.
His potential to lure Dems and independents into unwittingly voting for a continuation of our disastrous foreign policy course is what makes him the most dangerous man in America.
In 2000, people like me weren't even thinking about foreign policy, and McCain's attacks against Clinton and Gore's "feckless, photo-op foreign policy" were shrugged off. 2008 will be a different story, and we must make sure that all voters know what McCain really has in store for us and the world.
It's becomming ever more clear that the Democratic Party is the Anti-War At All Costs Party. That is the one issue the Liberal Left will never accept.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-12-06 13:40  

#5  McCain is still carrying baggage from Viet Nam POW days.

Precisely... Understand what he says in that context. We must do what we must do. Panties on the head isn't torture. McCain's beating at the hands of the VietCommies was...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-12-06 13:13  

#4  The hypocrisy is extreme.

Well, it IS McCain you're talking about here Kid. Hope I don't have to vote for him in 08.
Posted by: Secret Master   2005-12-06 11:14  

#3  I watched Kerry first and McCain second on TV last Sunday. Kerry was incoherant. McCain, although I don't like his domestic policies and I believe he distorts facts to fit his views of things, was critical of Murtha and Kerry, saying Murtha is blinded by emotion at our soldiers dieing andit brings back harmful memories of Vietnam and he essentially said Kerry doesn't have the backbone to stay in Iraq and win. I really think he knows what would happen if we withdraw too soon and he doesn't want to have wasted all the American and Coalition lives lost so far. Otherwise he can go blow a dead bear.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-12-06 07:47  

#2  McCain is still carrying baggage from Viet Nam POW days.
He caved to torture and has never recovered his sense of self respect.
(Note how McCain burst out in anger at Jeff Sessions when he dared to
question a soldier's testimony about a single alleged incident of torture.
How dare an anyone question an individual soldier's legitimacy!)
He admits in his own book that torture was successful on him.

Now John McCain has gone to bed with the high minded elites
of the LLL, MSM and the EU who believe they are high priests
of ethics, virtue and morality and are the sole protectors of the ignorant people.

The net result of their tortured thinking is that the professional soldier
is not an independent, noble individual capable of acting responsibly on his own,
but one who must be hedged in all around by rule and regulation
to the point where the individual ceases to exist.

That is why I love George W Bush my President and Commander in Chief.
Because he believes in you the individual that you can do it alone
and he wants you to be the best and all that you can be independent of him.
He is not going to hold you on a leash.
The good soldier lives to be a good soldier and the bad soldier dies a bad soldier/terrorist.
In the end George understands God is the Judge.

We must show our soldiers and our Commander in chief that we believe in them
and we support them to get the job done.

The hypocrisy is extreme. What the terrorists do is not important.
What is important is to tie the hands of the good soldier
so that in the end evil prevails and in the case of the EU that America loses.
Because the real evil is not the terrorist, but evil America herself,
that proud and independent nation.
Posted by: Kristeen Kid   2005-12-06 03:48  

#1  Keating Five McCain takes the moral high road (to massive crotchsniffing from the MSM newshounds.....)
Posted by: Frank G   2005-12-06 00:11  

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