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Britain
UK Muslim leader condemns protesters
2006-02-04
A march in which protesters chanted violent anti-Western slogans such as "7/7 is on its way" should have been banned, a leading British Muslim said. Asghar Bukhari said the demonstration in London on Friday should have been stopped by police because the group had been advocating violence.

The chairman of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee said the protesters "did not represent British Muslims".
Not more than, oh, 1/3 or 2/5 of them anyway. Where were the Muslim counter-protesters advocating free speech?
Mr Bukhari told the BBC News website: "The placards and chants were disgraceful and disgusting, Muslims do not feel that way. I condemn them without reservation, these people are less representative of Muslims than the BNP are of the British people."
Oh, I wouldn't go THAT far
He said that Muslims were angry over satirical cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad published in European papers but it was "outrageous" for anyone to advocate extreme action or violence. "We believe it [the protest] should have been banned and the march stopped.
Or you could have, you know, called up other imams and their communities and cooled them down yourself. Although, I can understand wanting the authorities to do that for you.
"It's irrelevant whether it's Muslims causing hatred or anyone else - freedom of speech has to be responsible."

Police estimated Friday's crowd at between 500 and 700 and no arrests were made.

On Saturday more protesters, organised by the Hizb ut-Tahrir group, gathering outside the Danish embassy in London. It appeared that the rally was far more restrained than the one on Friday. Police later said two men had been arrested near the embassy during the protest. "They were arrested to prevent a breach of the peace, after a search by officers found leaflets including cartoons of the prophet Mohammed," a Met spokeswoman said.

The UN's Kofi Annan has urged Muslims to accept the apology from the paper where the cartoons first appeared.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has praised UK media for not publishing them. Mr Straw said the decision by some European newspapers to print the cartoons was "disrespectful" and he added that freedom of speech did not mean an "open season" on religious taboos.
Of course it does. People with good taste don't have to result to religious insults, but it's there if you want it. When someone in America is disrespectful of Christians, that person is held in contempt, not beheaded.
Flanked by a forest of messages such as, "'Freedom' to insult", a speaker at Saturday's rally told the crowd they were demanding an end to "vilification". "If you want to debate and criticise then we are ready and we have been waiting, but we are not going to accept these images," he said.
I mean, what kind of debate would it be if we didn't automatically win?
He called on "the governments of the Muslim world to completely sever all contact with European governments" until they had "controlled the media".
and then they should control the women and the jews and .....
Among the images which have sparked outcry is one of Muhammad with a bomb-shaped turban on his head. Newspapers in Spain, Italy, Germany and France reprinted the material. They have sparked protests across the Middle East.

UK Muslims have denied that the reaction to the cartoons' reproduction has been a threat to freedom of speech.
"No, no, certainly not!"
Inayat Bunglawala, from the Muslim Council of Britain, told the BBC that any kind of cartoon that was derogatory to a race or group in a stereotypical way was "unacceptable".
Portraying people of African ancestry in bigoted terms has (thankfully) become unacceptable in the US, but we didn't behead anyone to stop it. Moral consciousness and strength of character did that.
"Of course Europe has the right to freedom of speech, and of course newspapers have the right to publish offensive cartoons. This was really a question about exercising good judgment," he said.
That's a different argument, and one that the Moose-limb rioters protesters aren't making.
"Knowing full well the nature of these cartoons, they were offensive, deeply offensive to millions of Muslims, these newspaper editors should have exercised better judgment.
Again, a different argument. Why don't you trying making that publicly?
Posted by:lotp

#5  "If you want to debate and criticise then we are ready and we have been waiting..."

Sure. And hoping and praying that we would criticise Mohammed. Unh huh...
Posted by: Jules   2006-02-04 23:57  

#4  Asghar Bukhari said the demonstration in London on Friday should have been stopped by police because the group had been advocating violence.

He believes that kind of thing should be kept inside mosques, in Arabic, as Allah intended.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2006-02-04 21:13  

#3  They're doing that because they think that their side is stronger than ours.

Yup
Posted by: lotp   2006-02-04 19:33  

#2  any kind of cartoon that was derogatory to a race or group in a stereotypical way was "unacceptable".

Does it apply to cartoons of jooos in the islamic press, Inayat Bunglawala?

Does or does not,
that is the question...

Until you answer in affirmative, you're just a hypocrite, penny a dozen.
Posted by: twobyfour   2006-02-04 17:48  

#1  This tempest in a teapot actually goes to the heart of why Islam and the West are incompatible. "Any kind of cartoon that was derogatory to a race or group in a stereotypical way was 'unacceptable'." Even if the stereotype is a true one. The cartoons were originally published making fun of Muslims' penchant for collapsing into frothing rage at the tiniest incident. Here they are, in high dudgeon at a tiny incident.

Calling the publication of the cartoons "unacceptable" is -- dare I say it? -- unacceptable. You can't have free speech and a free press in all respects except for the ones somebody find "unacceptable." There's always someone willing to find something "unacceptable." Look the the assaults made on Mom, the Flag, and Apple Pie in recent years.

They're emphasizing the fact that one side can't coexist with the other. They're doing that because they think that their side is stronger than ours.
Posted by: Fred   2006-02-04 17:47  

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