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More Protests In Trafalgar Square
2006-02-27
This Saturday, about 2,000 protesters gathered in Trafalgar Square. The march, which was planned several weeks in advance, was intended as a "stop the war" protest and followed protests the previous two Saturdays against the Danish cartoons.
However, following the Askari shrine bombing, the theme of the protests was overwhelmingly focussed against Sunni based terrorism. The march started from Hyde Park, proceeded along Picadilly, into Trafalgar Square. Unlike previous weeks, at least half of the protesters were female and mostly Shia Muslims.

Although there was a slight variation in the speeches given by the various Imams, the overriding consensus was that Sunni extremists were undoubtedly responsible for the attacks, with the main target of ire being the Wahhabi ideology which drives them, which suggested an implicit although unvoiced condemnation of the Saudi regime which promote its proliferation. Famous moderate Sir Iqbal Sacranie of the MCB appeared extremely nervous whilst giving his speech to a hostile crowd amid chants of "Death to Wahhabis & Takfiris" and chants eulogising Hussein and the Shia Imams. Whilst condemning the attacks as against Islam, he suggested that "Allah knows best the identity of the attackers."
Yup - he knows everyfink, does Al.
He also appealed for unity and peaceful dialogue between the two sects. Imam Sayyid Mussawi, whilst following the predominantly anti-Wahhabist stance, said that the Wahhabis were actually Joooos, and not to forget that Joooos were behind everything. Another point that he made was that as UK/US were the occupying forces, they held responsibility for the security failures and should therefore leave Iraq, to allow the people to defend their sacred right to "Kill them wherever you find them" themselves.

Although there were one or two slogans against the cartoons, the majority of people in attendance were against the politicisation of the cartoon issue. Most of the posters depicted scenes of the destruction of the Askari mosque. There were a number of banners from the AhlulBayt society of London University. The chanted slogans were "Death to Wahhabism/Takfirism/Bin Laden/Zarqawi."
Slightly disappointed not to make the shortlist...
Posted by:Admiral Allan Ackbar

#14  Bah, Moderation is a zionist conspiracy...
Humdulla Jumdulla Rumdulla...
Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar   2006-02-27 12:27  

#13  Up, up with people,
you meet 'em wherever you go.

Up, up with people,
they're the best kind of folks we know ...


Heh, NS.
Posted by: lotp   2006-02-27 12:02  

#12  Iqbal Sacranie is a Sunni big wig at the Muslim Council of Britain BTW, which is why he was not warmly received.

As for a link to a story, the only MSM one I can find is the beeb link posted earlier.
Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar   2006-02-27 11:58  

#11  it was definately a sweet moment watching Sacranie cringe, as there was a definate amount of heckling going on, but I never said that the crowd were booing Imam Massawis accusations.

To generalize, the people that I spoke to were calmer and more polite than the cartoon loons of previous weeks. It has to be remembered that taqeya is more widely practiced under shiism, which complicates things.

As for bad guys beating up on each other, I prefer to look at it as the guys that beat themselves with swords vs the guys that use their kiddies as bombs. I know which I prefer.
Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar   2006-02-27 11:39  

#10  m trying to think the last time I saw a demo of any kind saying "up with moderation".

I remember in eighth grade we had an assembly with a show by Up with People and they sang a song about up with Moderation right after their Up with Co-op-er-a -tion number.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-02-27 11:36  

#9  "Up With Moderation."

ROFL. Im trying to think the last time I saw a demo of any kind saying "up with moderation". much though Id approve of it :)
Posted by: liberalhawk   2006-02-27 11:26  

#8  You have a gathering openly condemning the House of Sa'ud and Wahabbi Islamofascism, and booing down the jerks who want to blame it all on Israel and the US and get foamed about the Motoons.

Where's the bit about booing the jerks who blamed it all on Joooooos? No link to a full story, and there's no mention in this excerpt.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2006-02-27 11:08  

#7  I have to disagree Mike. The crowd were mostly Shiites. They were denouncing Sunni extemists for attacking a Shia symbol. That doesn't they don't support Shia supremists. They weren't shouting Death to Sadr or the Ayatollahs or even Up With Moderation.
Posted by: ed   2006-02-27 10:46  

#6  . . . the overriding consensus was that Sunni extremists were undoubtedly responsible for the attacks, with the main target of ire being the Wahhabi ideology which drives them, which suggested an implicit although unvoiced condemnation of the Saudi regime which promote its proliferation . . .

Hey, kids, pay attention! A lot of Rantburgers keep asking, "where are the moderate muslims?'" Right here in front of you! You have a gathering openly condemning the House of Sa'ud and Wahabbi Islamofascism, and booing down the jerks who want to blame it all on Israel and the US and get foamed about the Motoons. It would've been nice to see this a few years ago, yeah--but we're seeing it now, and that's a good thing.

This isn't a case where you pop popcorn and watch the bad guys beat on each other. That crowd is a crowd booing the radical imam is a crowd of friendlies, or at least of people we can do business with.
Posted by: Mike   2006-02-27 10:37  

#5  The real tragedy if you ask me is that these events go unnoticed by the MSM - Compare the version of events at al-Beeb


"The event, which began at midday on Saturday, passed off peacefully."

"Secondly, we want to show Iraqis are united, whether Sunni, Shia or Kurd factions."


Sure they're united - united against Jooooos....
Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar   2006-02-27 10:17  

#4  Wouldn't it be funny if the long-predicted Sunni-Shia civil war broke out in Europe?
Posted by: Grinter Fluns8529   2006-02-27 10:16  

#3  AAA: Reasoning process???? I've heard it called a lot of things but never a "reasoning" process.
Posted by: AlanC   2006-02-27 10:06  

#2  I've come to expect it from these guys.
Cognitive dissonance does not seem to be an impediment to the reasoning process, once you've mastered the art of read-repeat-memorize-believe as celebrated by our holy men of the RoP.

Something bad happens => its the Jooos. Any other information, no matter how conflicting or counterintuitive, can then be used to support this theory.
Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar   2006-02-27 10:05  

#1  Imam Sayyid Mussawi, whilst following the predominantly anti-Wahhabist stance, said that the Wahhabis were actually Joooos, and not to forget that Joooos were behind everything.

Think about how twisted a mind must be to hold that thought.

Or: Wahabis = Jews because they have oil money.
/Brains of the Barbarians

Posted by: ed   2006-02-27 09:35  

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