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Iraq
SAS setting IEDs in Iraq?
2006-03-15
I was web browsing and came across a reference to this Gary Hart post on Huffington. It is, of course, preposterous drivel, but when I was looking through the moonbat comments, I came across this:
To find who is responsible for the mayhem of secretarian violence, you have to look at the history and who actually will benefit from such violence.
Arab conspiracy theorists are fond of this line of argument, since it involves not looking at who's actually doing the violence...
The British when they were the greatest power in the world used 'divide and conquer' to subjugate its subject.
So'd the Romans and the Persians and most everybody who's ever conquered anybody else...
It divided the local population and made them wary of each other. In the case of Iraq, US is illegally occupying the country through its illegal war.
That particular cant describes the writer as a moonbat...
Coughing Anus Kofi Annan stated that the Iraq war was illegal.
Yeah, and if the World Leader says it is illegal, it is illegal.
Kofi also sez there's not much wrong with the UN, and none of it happened on his watch...
As Danial Pipes stated in his blog, the secretarian violence in Iraq was a good thing for US.
Does any Rantburger believe that Pipes said this?
Probably someone would have noticed...
The British SAS men with Arab clothing was arrested with a car full of explosives and remote detonators in Basra.
WTF?? Has anyone heard of this event?
Made up out of whole cloth, as far as I know...
They were on a bombing mission against Shiite civilians to place a blame on Sunni insurgents.
Do these people actually believe the SAS, that venerated and honored unit of SPECOPS warriors, is committing acts of pure terror? I mean, what kind of worldview do you need to actually believe that? Sheesh.
I am of the opinion that the current sectarian violence was a product of US/British/Israeli military operations to divide the Iraqis.
Gotta get the Joooos in there somewhere.
The writer's expressing his opinion. It's a stupid opinion, but I guess it's his.
The history and evidence seems to point to that direction.
history? evidence?? Amazing.
Who benefits the most in dividing Iraq so that the previous oil can be reapt for the benefit of occupying forces.?
'previous oil'? What the F*#K is that? And 'reapt'? Like Sowt? 'benefit'? Like when the US import fuel from Kuwait and Turkey and paying top dollar? He seems to be able to read, but where is the getting this from? Amazing. May God save our nation from citizens like him
We're back to "it's all about oil." The writer has a set of expectations about the same size and shape as Procrustes' bed. He's not real big on empirical observation because it takes too much effort, so he goes with what he wants to believe. His opinion can be discounted.
/rant
Posted by:Brett

#16  That's more like IT.

PIMF
Posted by: Dreadnought   2006-03-15 16:22  

#15  That's more like that. Fetch me a bourbon, my good and trusty liege man.
Posted by: Dreadnought   2006-03-15 16:18  

#14  "All hail Emperor Dreadnought! Don't shoot."
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-03-15 15:38  

#13  I benefit from the sun coming up in the morning. Therefore, I make the sun come up in the morning.

You guys should be a lot more respectful to someone as powerful as me.
Posted by: Dreadnought   2006-03-15 15:36  

#12  Who benefits from that violence? Well Zarcowe's memo touched on that I think. Something about a tussle within Al Queda about stirring up this kind of crap.

Syria also benefits as confusion in Iraq delays the eventual time when Uncle Sam deals with them.

Iran also benefits as they want their boy Sadr to take over, unfortunately for them the people didn't rally around his attacks against Sunnis and calm returned.

The US had nothing to gain and potentially an enormous amount to lose if things got out of control. This is nonsense from top to bottom.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-03-15 13:34  

#11  I'm sorry, wasn't it the British that saved your worthless asses from the Turks? Maybe they should have let you chafe under they yoke of the Ottoman empire for another hundred years.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2006-03-15 13:02  

#10  The quoted text was NOT written by Gary Hart, but it's interesting that he attracts such fellow-travellers.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2006-03-15 11:33  

#9  Nope, Perfesser. You've gotta have "students" who actually think logically to serve that up as proof. They'd only scream (if we actually were to do that) that it PROVES their point of it all being about the oil.
Posted by: BA   2006-03-15 11:29  

#8  Perhaps what is required is a demonstration of what we would do if we were really out for the oil? Then they might be able to tell the difference.
Posted by: Perfesser   2006-03-15 09:48  

#7  coulda been the fireworks display team for the garrison Lawrence of Arabia theme party?

LOL, Howard.

The presence of explosives could also have been bullshit manufactured by the Iraqi Police...

Yes, especially after the Brits finally began pressuring some of the local militia not to act on Iran's behalf.
Posted by: lotp   2006-03-15 08:34  

#6  Andy McNab at it again eh? Who Dares..., well you know.
Posted by: Visitor   2006-03-15 08:31  

#5  waiting for Al gaurdian to publish this claptrap - i give it a week at most.
Posted by: ShepUK   2006-03-15 07:44  

#4  Frankly, I'd be shocked if you didn't find explosives on an SAS team.

But Gary "Monkey Business" Hart is a freaking loon.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2006-03-15 07:20  

#3  Erm I think the SAS men did have 'stuff' on them... coulda been the fireworks display team for the garrison Lawrence of Arabia theme party? errrr.. I guess having Iran on the doorstep may lead to us using our own forms of subterfuge. The presence of explosives could also have been bullshit manufactured by the Iraqi Police...
Posted by: Howard UK   2006-03-15 06:18  

#2  To find who is responsible for the mayhem of secretarian violence, you have to look at the history and who actually will benefit from such violence.

Der Juden?
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-03-15 02:15  

#1  If the US/West is so focused on "seizing" oil, then why is it the West put out some 1,300 oil well fires after Gulf War I - fires that no one else could have touched - then redrilled the wells - and then WENT HOME AND RESUMED BUYING THAT OIL AT TOP DOLLAR??????????

The "it's all about oil" crowd never seem to find any irony in that situation.
Posted by: Lone Ranger   2006-03-15 00:27  

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