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Afghanistan
Afghan court drops case against Christian
2006-03-26
An Afghan court on Sunday dismissed a case against a man who converted from Islam to Christianity because of a lack of evidence and he will be released soon, officials said.
"Hot potato! Hot potato!"
The announcement came as U.S.-backed President Hamid Karzai faced mounting foreign pressure to free Abdul Rahman, a move that risked angering Muslim clerics who have called for him to be killed.
Not being allowed to kill him will cause a great weeping and gnashing of teeth among the adherents of the Religion of Blood...
An official closely involved with the case told The Associated Press that it had been returned to the prosecutors for more investigation, but that in the meantime, Rahman would be released.
"This is a test. You are being released for the moment, until they can build a better case. This is a bus ticket to Europe. If you don't use it, you're crazy. Think about it."
"The court dismissed today the case against Abdul Rahman for a lack of information and a lot of legal gaps in the case," the official said Sunday. "The decision about his release will be taken possibly tomorrow," the official added. "They don't have to keep him in jail while the attorney general is looking into the case."
"We need a day or so to get the bus gassed up and to put new tires on it."
Abdul Wakil Omeri, a spokesman for the Supreme Court, confirmed that the case had been dismissed because of "problems with the prosecutors' evidence." He said several family members of Rahman have testified that he has mental problems. "It is the job of the attorney general's office to decide if he is mentally fit to stand trial," he told AP. A Western diplomat, also declining to be identified because of the sensitivity of the case, said questions were being raised as to whether Rahman would stay in Afghanistan or go into exile in a foreign country.
Yeah. It's a test to see if he really is crazy.
Rahman was being prosecuted under Afghanistan's Islamic laws for converting 16 years ago while working as a medical aid worker for an international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in Pakistan.
You're simply not allowed to do that in Islam. The penalty is death, which is why no Islamic country can allow freedom of thought.
Some Islamic holy men clerics had said Rahman would face danger from his countrymen if he were released. Earlier Sunday he was moved to a notorious maximum-security prison outside Kabul that is also home to hundreds of Taliban and al-Qaida militants. The move to Policharki Prison came after detainees threatened his life at an overcrowded police holding facility in central Kabul, a court official.
And the difference between the holy men and the crooks and thugs in jail is...? Right. The holy men aren't behind bars.
Gen. Shahmir Amirpur, who is in charge of Policharki, confirmed the move and said Rahman had also been begging his guards to provide him with a Bible.
I'm guessing the one he had was taken away from him and desecrated. I'm starting to seethe, here...
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice phoned Karzai last Thursday and asked for a "favorable resolution" to the case. Karzai also heard from Pope Benedict XVI, who urged Rahman's release out of respect for religious freedom.
In a Muslim country? Right. And I'm going on a tour that includes a stop at the Basilica of St. Abdullah in Mecca.
The pope used the case Sunday to talk about Christians around the world who are persecuted for their beliefs. "My thoughts turn, in particular, to those communities who live in countries where there is a lack of religious freedom, or where despite claims on paper, they in truth are subjected to many restrictions," the pontiff said as he delivered his traditional Sunday blessing from the window of his studio overlooking St. Peter's Square. "I send them my warmest encouragement to persevere in the patience and charity of Christ," Benedict added.
Posted by:Nimble Spemble

#14  lotp, I wish I could have said it as well as you. Spot on!
Posted by: 49 Pan   2006-03-26 18:28  

#13  CBS news producers are tendentious asses.
Posted by: anon   2006-03-26 17:30  

#12  The CBS radio report about this case alleged that "Christian groups" were "close to the Bush administration" and that is why we put pressure on the Afghans...
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-03-26 17:27  

#11  Edward It was a Yahoo AP item in the news - just in the body of the early stories as the charges broke. Searched but can't find to give you a link. The statemant surprised me, actually - along the lines I stated, I wish I could find.

lotp I'm not advocating leaving at all. Same reasons. And more determined, but feel a real punch for the 1 step forward, 2 steps back hit.


Patience. Fortitude. Success.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-03-26 13:50  

#10  My own take is that Karzai and many want just that, in order to save this guy's life without taking on an impossible fight.

On the other hand, the Taliban would LOVE for this to be framed as the West versus the inherent demands of Islam. It plays right into their hands, because your average dirt poor, uneducated Afghan is not about to appreciate the secular arguments for religious freedom, when Islam is the one thing he has that he can hold to proudly.

*IF* we are both wise as serpents and patient as ... well, more patient than Americans tend to be, anyway ... then we have a chance to see that country evolve in ways that will cause the Taliban to wither away at the roots. But it will not happen overnight.

As to why our troops should support the mission there anyway, I could quote Condi Rice on remembering that it took us more than a year or two to evolve into non-discrimination against blacks - a fact that she gently suggests is an opportunity for us to be a little humble when looking at the progress of Iraq and Afghanistan.

But I don't have to. Our military presence in Afghanistan is for our own needs in dealing with Iran, Pakistan etc. It also supports the creation of a moderate, democratic country there over time, which will be to our benefit eventually as well.

But first and foremost it's a flanking move to shape the battlefield with the Islmacists. This is not the time to abandon Afghanistan into their hands, giving up the position we worked hard for and undercutting Karzai in the process.

The Taliban-aligned prosecutor who brought these charges against Rahman wants just that outcome. I for one do not want to give it to him.
Posted by: lotp   2006-03-26 13:30  

#9  Thinemp, source on the mullahs' nightmare being that someone whisks Rahman out to the US safely?
Posted by: Edward Yee   2006-03-26 13:16  

#8  The Mad Mullahs cannot let him leave alive. It would prove an escape from islam is possible.

The "mental problems" story is precisely a way for them to save face here.

If I could wave a magic wand, I would modernize Afghanistan overnight. Its people would be prosperous, employed, educated, connected happily to the outside world. And in such a state I doubt very many would care about Rahman's religious convictions.

But at the moment, that's a ways off. What IS nearby is the need to pressure Iran from the east and Pakistan from the west. Our presence in Afghanistan is a key move in dismantling the Islamacist nuclear threat and Karzai is a key player in supporting that.

One step at a time, folks. This is, as Condi Rice keeps reminding us, a generational war. There will be plenty of time to demand a full change of heart re: fundamentalism in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Right now we need to deal with the immediate threat and set some bounds, as with the Rahman case, the publication of the cartoons etc.
Posted by: lotp   2006-03-26 12:57  

#7  TS: We cannot support a government - however fledgling it may profess to be - (Fledglings follow the basic rules in the nest.) that embraces a law of intolerance, violence and hatred.

Say there's a general rising in Afghanistan. How many men are we prepared to lose enforcing a right to apostasy? A hundred? A thousand? I think we're about to find out just how much Afghans (and the Muslim world) value the right to kill apostates. And how much we value liberal democracy. Afghanistan has a representative democracy - it's just not a liberal democracy, meaning minority rights aren't guaranteed.

Still, I'm not totally pessimistic - I think our persistence in Iraq has shown the Muslim world that Uncle Sam will give them a run for their money - that it isn't easy to outlast us. The response to 9/11 showed that Uncle Sam will hit back hard if struck at home. It's quite possible that the natives will be quiescent in response to our insistence upon religious freedom. One can only hope.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-03-26 12:56  

#6  Zhang, I know he'll do just fine outside Afghanistan. The Mad Mullahs cannot let him leave alive. It would prove an escape from islam is possible. Local reports have the fundo truly annoyed that he might be whisked out safely. It's their nightmare.

And it is Karzai's responsibility to ensure that that Sharia does not trump democracy and Article 18. Else it's not democracy and becomes the very thing from which we have fought so hard to free them

We cannot support a government - however fledgling it may profess to be - (Fledglings follow the basic rules in the nest.) that embraces a law of intolerance, violence and hatred.

And whether Karzai can, or will, or understands that acting in the name of human rights is within his realm. As a good muslim, he should cherish the chance at martrydom. It's him or Rahman.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-03-26 12:40  

#5  TW: The problem remains, Karzai, and it's still a topic. He dies - at anyone's hand - we hold you responsible.

Karzai is our guy. But the Afghan population doesn't dance on his strings. Karzai can't even protect himself - our boys do that for him. He certainly can't protect Abdul Rahman. Heck - NGO's with resources to hire bodyguards can't protect themselves. How is a lone individual going to stay alive? Ideally, we should hand this guy a green card and ship him stateside. Maybe even sedate him and tie him up if necessary. I'm sure church groups will be happy to help him adjust (and maybe help him start a new family). Besides, he spent years in Europe. He should do just fine. Outside Afghanistan.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-03-26 12:15  

#4  Gen. Shahmir Amirpur, who is in charge of Policharki, confirmed the move and said Rahman had also been begging his guards to provide him with a Bible.


That'll take care of the problem. He'll be dead within 24 hours. Either a prisoner or a guard will take care of the problem and Karzai will have clean hands.

"Lack of evidence" - so Converts will be killed according to law rather than acknowlege that the Constitution does have a clause guaranteeing religious freedom.

The problem remains, Karzai, and it's still a topic. He dies - at anyone's hand - we hold you responsible.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-03-26 09:35  

#3  I believe Rahman had previously tried to get refugee status in Germany. I wonder where he will now end up.

I hope many Americans have been paying attention (though I doubt it) and learned that not everyone has values that are in any way compatible with ours.
Posted by: ed   2006-03-26 09:35  

#2  Some Islamic clerics had said Rahman would face danger from his countrymen if he were released.


Very simple solution. Make public that in case something happens to him or even if he disappearsn for more than 24 hours then every imam in a radius of ten miles will face a very unpleasant death.




Posted by: JFM   2006-03-26 09:32  

#1  They want him to leave the country but with the case against him open so that they can imprison and execute him if he ever returns to try to retrieve his kids.
Posted by: lotp   2006-03-26 09:27  

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