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Democrats Irked Over Zarqawi's Death
2006-06-08
Grass-roots Democrats weighing in on several popular liberal Web sites Thursday morning said that they were troubled by reports that al Qaida's top operational terrorist, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, had been killed in a U.S. air strike.

Reacting to the news, one visitor to the Daily Kos complained that using military force to kill Zarqawi "violates everything my America stands for."
"It violates the rule of law and invokes the rule of force in what should be a criminal, not a military, matter."

Another Daily Kos'er was irked because he thought the news would benefit President Bush: "No doubt Karl Rove will have the sock puppet president acting as if he personally dropped the bomb that killed that jackass," he wrote. "But other than a couple of photo ops of Bush looking cocky, it does nothing because two more tin-plated Zarqawi's will pop up."

A third Kos poster suggested that there was little difference between the top al-Qaida terrorist and the leader of the free world, writing: "Now [that] we are rid of one murderous tyrant - how about the removal of another one - believed hiding in a safe-house at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?"

Over at the Democratic Underground, reaction to news of Zarqawi's death was also negative: "Convenient too that this would happen now," complained one DU'er: "Guess we should just all forget about that Haditha mess, the fact that we are approaching 2,500 dead and the fact that our economy is in big trouble."

Another DU poster said that killing the al-Qaida chief really wasn't such a big deal, insisting: "Zarqawi was a fringe group of al-Qaida, and definitely not responsible for the bulk of the insurgency and civil war now occurring in Iraq. Any gains that they hope to receive will be short-lived when reality strikes home."
Think I'll pop over and see if I can pick up a few more gems of wisdom, these are pretty tame by DU standards
Posted by:Steve

#29  The MSM can't complain becuz Osama been dead before, SPOCK has been dead before, and many Hollyweird actors-actresses as well, dubious alleged "obituaries" which the MSM itself played a role. ZARK's death, iff true, is just one outstanding achievement for Dubya and the GOP-Right - THERES ALWAYS THE SAINT BILL CLINTON EXAMPLE ON HOW TO WIN AGAINST A SUCCESSFUL REPUBLICAN(S) [Bush 1-Dole] BUT SAINT BILL HIMSELF SEZZES HE WAS PREZ BY ELEX FRAUD. As neither Hillary nor the Dems for 2008 can singularly claim anything from Saint Bill's alleged "successful" "record/tenure", the only thing/cards they have left is new 9-11's and anti-GOP/USA "nuclear brinkmanship"!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-06-08 20:27  

#28  ...Kossacks dont speak for dems.

They do in my world gthem along with the "quagmire" and "all US troop are criminals" MSM. I would not piss on a Democrat if they were on fire.. I will never vote for one again im my life. As far as can see and am conncerend Kos and the DU are the mainstream Democratric party.

Sorry the shoe fits Cinderella
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-06-08 20:22  

#27  Democrats Irked Over Zarqawi's Death

Sheesh. From the title, I was expecting more Scrappleface.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-06-08 19:16  

#26  Christ! After you read Daily Kos you feel like you need to delouse. I can't believe people are actually going online to mourn the death of Zarky. What a bunch of assholes! If they hate america so much why don't they go to Iraq and fight coalition forces.
Posted by: Crating Gloluper5029   2006-06-08 19:06  

#25  F**k it man, the Kossacks dont speak for dems.

Really? Better tell the Dems.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2006-06-08 17:54  

#24  "I have to up my SOMA dose for a few days."

You're still not at therapeutic levels, bub.
Posted by: Mike   2006-06-08 16:19  

#23   look at bullmoose for a better Dem response.

'Hawk, what's the difference between Bull Moose and Markos Zuniga?

Answer: Bull Moose is a grownup.
Posted by: Mike   2006-06-08 16:18  

#22  As Alaska Paul put it when Uday and Qusay got theirs,
Stuck in the Quagmire™ ya think? The more the left talks, the more it sounds like squawks
Posted by: Korora   2006-06-08 16:01  

#21  Hey, at least Daily Kos and Democratic Underground mention the bastard got whacked.

Nothing, nada, zip over at MyDD. It's far more important to them that Cox is banning Craigslist. They must have a new personal ad up (this time, it's gonna get them some tail! Not like the other five times, this one is GOOD!!)

The moonbats are starting to recover from the shock, though. DU now has a statement from Richard Clarke saying it's not going to speed the end of the Iraq quagmire!! war, Atrios is telling his readers to buy Dixie Chicks tickets to support their tour, and the Kossacks are going off about how Bush could have whacked Zarq before the war and the Iraqi guvmint let him go once before...

Anyway, if your tummy can stand it, go read some of the posts. Watching the inmates go off their meds is rather amusing if you have a sick sense of humor (note, someone there actually has a pic of Jimmah as his/her avatar. YJCMTSU.)
Posted by: Desert Blondie   2006-06-08 15:15  

#20  seems both sides are piling on the political bandwagon. The MSM, however, seems to believe this is all bad news. I don't have much use for politicians of any denomination.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2006-06-08 14:14  

#19  Joe Biden.

'The Senator from Delaware also said that he hopes [Zarqawi's death] improves President Bush's approval ratings. "We get one president at a time.... This election in November is not for President of the United States.... I hope it does improve his standing and emboldens him to take bolder moves in terms of his policy in Iraq.... His low ratings and his inability to rally support is a difficult position for the United States internationally."'
Posted by: liberalhawk   2006-06-08 13:53  

#18  The joke is on the dems, Bush did time this killing with the election, but due to delays, it came off almost 2 years too late.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-06-08 13:32  

#17  look at bullmoose for a better Dem response.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2006-06-08 13:31  

#16  F**k it man, the Kossacks dont speak for dems.

If youre surprised how pissed I am, you need to know a little of virginia politics.

We got a primary coming up. Jim Webb vs Harris Miller. Harris is a lifelong Dem, a telecom lobbyist, with a long list of the usual policy proposals on health care, employment, education etc. Rock solid, moderate to liberal Dem.

Jim Webb is ex-military, ex-Reagan cabinet, voted for Bush and George Allen in 2000. Anti gun control.

You know who the Kossacks are rallying around. Jim Webb. Webb has only two "liberal" policy positions. 1 is populist hostility to free trade. the other is longstanding opposition to the war in Iraq - he calls himself a "realist" and hates neocons. The Kossacks would like folks to think that they like Webb cause hes more "electable" than Miller. But those are the same guys who want Ned Lamont over Joe Lieberman in Conn.


Needless to say I will be voting for Harris Miller. Jim Webb is everything I DONT want the Democratic party to be. I despise the Kossacks for supporting him, and I despise anyone who takes the Kossacks as representative of the Dem party.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2006-06-08 13:28  

#15  Being Tranzis of course they put party over nation and family.
Posted by: 3dc   2006-06-08 13:20  

#14  "Do we even know if this guy ever existed?

Just ask Nicholas Berg ... oh, wait - never mind.
Posted by: Xbalanke   2006-06-08 12:38  

#13  And we're all waiting for Godot, anon5089. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2006-06-08 12:29  

#12  "Do we even know if this guy ever existed? ..."

Are you even sure YOU exist? Aren't you a figment of Karl Rove's imagination? Who can tell? No one, for sure.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-06-08 11:55  

#11  "Do we even know if this guy ever existed? ..."

Other than the dead body in the freezer you mean ...
Posted by: Steve White   2006-06-08 11:53  

#10  Dang Right. Kudos Steve, you're a better man than I. I swear, I spent 5 seconds at the site and I could actually smell the stench through the monitor.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-06-08 11:50  

#9  Steve, I salute you. I'm so glad that steel-nerved men such as yourself are willing to plunge into the fever swamps so we don't have to.

Make sure you get a good long bath, now.
Posted by: Mike   2006-06-08 11:44  

#8  On CNN this morning I swear that the anchor had to cut to commercial so she could dab the tears from her eyes.

OT : this reminds me of the female US correspondent of the leftist french private channel "canal +"/"I télé", who followed GWB during his campaign trips (bitterly commenting on the "fanaticism" and "all-american-ness" of his fans attending his meetings), and who spontaneously bursted in tears on air when she had to announce his re-election.
Lol, the poor thing couldn't stand the idea of the Monster being in office for 4 more years... She's still the channel's US correspondent, commenting on current affairs, btw, you can guess how fair and balanced she is.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-06-08 11:33  

#7  On CNN this morning I swear that the anchor had to cut to commercial so she could dab the tears from her eyes.

Well, it's as emotional a moment for CNN as Arafat's leaving his bunker was for the BBC.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-06-08 11:27  

#6  On CNN this morning I swear that the anchor had to cut to commercial so she could dab the tears from her eyes.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2006-06-08 11:20  

#5  My God, these people have no soul. What's the first reaction of these 'Americans'? Not joy over the death of a monster who delighted in sawing off heads in front of a video camera, blowing up school children, etc. No, but rather a knee-jerk continuation of their psychotic anti-Bush tirades. To hell with them all.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-06-08 11:18  

#4  Here we go:
"...I never believed in this pat story of AL Qaeda in Iraq. It set off my bullshit meter right from the get go. This won't help Bush as much as Rove would like. It is just a desperate stunt in an attempt to prop up Bush's poll numbers and boost the popularity his failed war by feigning the killing of one of the psyop program's main character. But by next week they'll have thought up another one to take his place. This is a classic case of the tail wagging the dog. And what better way to shut down the story of Bush's bisexuality that were picking up a "head" of steam? I'm sure Jeff Gannon is thrilled about this latest development."

"Do we even know if this guy ever existed? And if he did, who is he and how would we know? And even if he is who they say he is, so what?

We'll have 200 threads on this while BushCo keeps stealing us blind, pissing off the world and rigging the next election. Meanwhile, if there is an al Qaida, they'll be laughing their asses off and picking a new guy to hold the key bunch. What changes -- besides a new rallying cry for all those new guys we've enraged? I have to up my SOMA dose for a few days."

"Listening to CSPAN now ... it seems that it's *nationalistic fervor* It's disgusting hearing these right wing crazies continue to believe that Iraq had any DAMN thing to do with 9/11.
What did the average Iraqi do to us? Now every terrorist in the ME is scrambling over to THEIR country. While Earl and May Ella in the deep south think that it's fine to trash a country that did NOTHING to us because evidently we are SUPERIOR."

"The guy was merely an invention of the Bush administration anyway and this convenient web site is most likely run by the CIA. Now they'll have to invent a new "terrarist" to chase all over Iraq, while continuing to look for weapons of mass destruction. I wonder what fancy name they'll come up with for a "Al Qeada in Iraq" leader?

Lucky for George Al Zarq-who-i got blasted at such an apropo moment with the brouhaha over psycho scribe coulter reaching a fever pitch in the US. That should that all go away now thanks to the death of this fictitious "terrarist". Isn't the timing special?"
Posted by: Steve   2006-06-08 11:11  

#3  ...and the fact that our economy is in big trouble.

Last I checked, the unemployment rate was below 5% and GDP was at an annualized +3 percent clip. Are these the same people who claim to be 'reality-based'?
Posted by: Raj   2006-06-08 11:10  

#2  Well, the Donks *DID* loose their best speechwriter.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-06-08 11:07  

#1  To claim the timing was convenient is ignorant. It would have been better to time such a kill closer to the 2006 election, or better yet closer to the 2008 election cycle. Even a week ago it might have had some use in helping the 50th district in California that everyone was considering a bellweather for 2006.

But to come now? I think this could potentially be the worst timing for political advantage short of killing him in the lull after the 2004 elections or something.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-06-08 11:05  

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