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Men With Older Brothers More Likely To Be Gay
2006-06-26
WASHINGTON (AP) AP, so you know it's true. — Having several older brothers increases the likelihood of a man being gay, a finding researchers say adds weight to the idea that there is a biological basis for sexual orientation.
Dutch Rubs, Indian Burns, Wedgies, now you can blame you big bro for your gayness.
"It's likely to be a prenatal effect," said Anthony F. Bogaert of Brock University in St. Catharines, Canada, "This and other studies suggest that there is probably a biological basis for" homosexuality.
and being a twisted freak too
S. Marc Breedlove of Michigan State University said the finding "absolutely" confirms a physical basis.
Beam me up Mr. Sulu, I've always loved you.
"Anybody's first guess would have been that the older brothers were having an effect socially, but this data doesn't support that," Breedlove said in a telephone interview.
No this isn't Scrappleface, his name really is Breedlove.
The only link between the brothers is the mother and so the effect has to be through the mother, especially since stepbrothers didn't have the effect, said Breedlove, who was not part of the research.
Now it's mom's fault, make up your mind.
Bogaert studied four groups of Canadian men, Out of respect for our Canadian Rantburgers I'll belay the obvious joke here. a total of 944 people, analyzing the number of brothers and sisters each had, whether or not they lived with those siblings and whether the siblings were related by blood or adopted.

He reports in a paper appearing in Tuesday's issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that having several biological older brothers increased the chance of a man being gay.
That and finding another man's hairy arse appealing.
It's an effect that can be detected with one older brother and becomes stronger with three or four or more, Bogaert said in a telephone interview.

But, he added, this needs to be looked at in context of the overall rate of homosexuality in men, which he suggested is about 3 percent. With several older brothers the rate may increase from 3 percent to 5 percent, he said, but that still means 95 percent of men with several older brothers are heterosexual.
Thanks Doc, that's a comforting thought.
The effect of birth order on male homosexuality has been reported previously but Bogaert's work is the first designed to rule out social or environmental effects.
So in other words, it's not a choice, you are born that way? Where have I heard this before?
Bogaert said he concluded the effect was biological by comparing men with biological brothers to those with brothers to whom they were not biologically related.

The increase in the likelihood of being gay was seen only in those whose brothers had the same mothers, whether they were raised together or not, he said.

Men raised with several older step- or adopted brothers do not have an increased chance of being gay.
This guy gets paid to do this, do you realize this?
"So what that means is that the environment a person is raised in really makes not much difference," he said.

What makes a difference, he said, is having older brothers who shared the same womb and gestational experience, suggesting the difference is because of "some sort of prenatal factor."
Oh boy, here we go again.
One possibility, he suggests, is a maternal immune response to succeeding male fetuses. The mother may react to a male fetus as foreign but not to a female fetus because the mother is also female.

It might be like the maternal immune response that can occur when a mother has Rh-negative blood but her fetus has Rh-positive blood. Without treatment, the mother can develop antibodies that may attack the fetus during future pregnancies.
I'm going to go stick my finger down my throat now.
Whether that's what is happening remains to be seen, but it is a provocative hypothesis, said a commentary by Breedlove, David A. Puts and Cynthia L. Jordan, all of Michigan State.

The research was funded by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada.
Posted by:bigjim-ky

#15  *rimshot*
Posted by: Frank G   2006-06-26 21:38  

#14  I'm not really gay, said Joe, half in Earnest.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-06-26 21:24  

#13  I never used it in a bar...I have better lines - most said with red smoldering eyes and hushed sincerity...LOL
Posted by: Frank G   2006-06-26 21:21  

#12  This must be a blue coastal thingy.
Posted by: Elmert Jinetle8240   2006-06-26 21:18  

#11  Frank, you too?
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-06-26 19:59  

#10  You know, that line never worked on me or my friends in bars, Frank.

Just thought I'd let you know ... LOL
Posted by: lotp   2006-06-26 19:57  

#9  I have a younger sister. Prolly explains why I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body
Posted by: Frank G   2006-06-26 19:40  

#8  I have one older and one younger and we all play for the same team. ;-)
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2006-06-26 19:30  

#7  Here's the real issue they need to bring up.

What part of mom's pregnancy shifts the rugrat to be more gay?

Does having an abortion mean that if you concieve later in life the kid has a better chance of being gay?

It may be a stupid question, but then again, I am a 100% heterosexual younger brother.
Posted by: Penguin   2006-06-26 19:24  

#6  Your too cool for skool 5089, but you can't help it.
Posted by: 6   2006-06-26 18:42  

#5  Sounds like a 21st century update of Freud blaming mama for everything,

I dunno, Freud has been completely debunked, but when I think of me and my all-powerful mama, I guess he was probably right for people like me... besides, I've got two younger sisters, and I'm totally "gay", not gay in the sexual orientation way, but "gay" in the lack of coolness meaning... so, this next of kin thing makes sense, somehow... a well spent grant!
/It's all about me! Me! Me!
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-06-26 16:32  

#4  I have three older brothers, but I also have four older sisters which apparently tipped the scales back in favor of heterosexuality!

*whew!* That was a close one!
Posted by: Dar   2006-06-26 16:12  

#3  The theoretical speculation toward the end of the article is dismally ignorant. A homosexual preference is (on first examination) an evolutionary death sentence - if you don't procreate then you don't have offspring to carry forward your behaviour.

Homosexuality should be rigorously eliminated from the gene pool. The fact it exists begs the question why?

There is a simple explanation that we see in other animals. The top male gets to breed and especially the blood relatives of the top male have 'an evolutionary incentive' not to rock the boat, as at least half of their genes will be carried forward by the top male breeding.

Therefore, homosexuality is evolution's answer to, how to deal with the sexual drive of the breeding stakes losers.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-06-26 15:33  

#2  Then why is it that the gay men I know are all oldest (or only) sons?

Sounds like a 21st century update of Freud blaming mama for everything, only this time he's got some supposed "science" behind it.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2006-06-26 15:23  

#1  I think this study is confusing family ties with proximity to lumberjacks.
Posted by: ed   2006-06-26 15:13  

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