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| Sunni rebels reject deal as bin Laden vows jihad in Iraq |
| 2006-06-30 |
| BAGHDAD (AFP) - A Sunni Arab leader has said insurgents have rejected the Iraqi prime minister's reconciliation plan, as Al-Qaeda supremo I didn't use that word! Not me! Osama bin Laden vowed that the jihad would press on until victory. "This initiative is a campaign of public relations for the government," Muthana Hareth al-Dhari, a leader from the influential Sunni Arab Muslim Scholars Association, told AFP. Dhari said the reconciliation plan unveiled on Sunday by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki aimed at stemming the sectarian violence ravaging Iraq's Sunni and Shiite communities was "meaningless because he has excluded everyone". Everyone? It also aims to encourage die-hard Sunni Arabs like Dhari who refuse to accept the rise to power of the long-oppressed Shiites to abandon their sympathies for armed struggle and join the political process. Maliki has said he would only pardon those detainees held in US and Iraqi prisons who have committed no violent crimes and stressed there would be no amnesty to those who killed foreign troops, journalists or innocent Iraqis. More than 2,500 detainees have been freed this month from US and Iraqi prisons as part of the plan. Adding to the confusion over his initiative, Maliki said Wednesday he had been contacted by insurgent groups willing to lay down their weapons and he would engage them in dialogue directly or through other government officials. The announcement was hailed by state-owned Iraqiya television and the government-owned Al-Sabah newspaper. They even named the purported insurgent groups which approached Maliki and claimed that tribal leaders from the rebel stronghold of Ramadi in Al-Anbar province of western Iraq were acting as go-betweens. "Neither the principal armed groups of resistance nor political organisations like ours have accepted this plan which ignores a timetable for the withdrawal of (foreign) troops," said Dhari. "Nobody knows the so-called organisations mentioned in the government mouthpiece Al-Sabah and the armed groups mentioned are also unknown." Are they part of the 'everyone' excluded by Maliki? Dhari said the main Sunni groups which rejected the proposal were the Brigades of 1920 Revolution, the Rashedeen Army, Islamic Movement of Iraqi Mujahedeen, United Iraqi Jihadist People, and Jaish al-Mujahedeen. The plan was also rejected Tuesday by an eight-member coalition of militant groups in Iraq led by Al-Qaeda according to a statement posted on the Internet. And on Friday an Internet-posted voice message purported to be from bin Laden paid tribute to the network's leader in Iraq, Jordanian-born Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who was killed in a US air strike on June 7. "We will keep up our fight to bleed your money dry, kill your men and so that (your forces) go home defeated, as we defeated you in Somalia," bin Laden told US President George W. Bush. "The banner (of jihad holy war) has not fallen. It will be picked up by another lion of Islam," he said in the message whose authenticity could not be immediately confirmed. |
| Posted by:Bobby |
| #21 Bin Hiding |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-06-30 22:34 |
| #20 Been Laden? He's dead, Wilbur. |
| Posted by: mrp 2006-06-30 22:11 |
| #19 So are you coming down to Iraq for the big jihadi party, Binny? Yeah, I didn't think so... |
| Posted by: tu3031 2006-06-30 22:00 |
| #18 Will Karen Hughes teach us how to say "we'll kill all the Islamofascist pigs you send our way, Osama" in Arabic? |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-06-30 17:03 |
| #17 6 is teasing you, Angomoper Hupoluth6228. At one point Fred's name generator came up with a series of Spembles, of which dear Nimble Spemble is the only remaining member, and 6 discovered and interesting sheaf of traits they shared in common. Dear 6 can also be unexpectedly and dangerously whimsical, for which we try to make allowances. ;-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-06-30 16:42 |
| #16 Angomopers not having the natural advantage of Spembles, is that what you're hinting at, 6? ;-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-06-30 16:37 |
| #15 "so quickly" -- Now that qualifies as odd. Know every poster at Rantburg do you? I am on a work PC and have to use a proxy to even get to Rantburg, much less post. |
| Posted by: Angomoper Hupoluth6228 2006-06-30 16:35 |
| #14 Is it supposed to be a secret? Hardly, the notion seems to be spreading. It's just odd than an Angomoper would pick up on it so quickly. |
| Posted by: 6 2006-06-30 16:24 |
| #13 Lock n' load |
| Posted by: Captain America 2006-06-30 15:57 |
| #12 the reconciliation/negotiation process was always bound to be tough. After all, this region is the home of the bazaar, the rug dealer, where nothing is "fixed price" Its hard to see how Maliki can limit amnesty only to guys whove never pulled a trigger, but OTOH as a FIRST offer it makes sense - "you WANT amnesty for guys whove only fired at Americans, well, look, this is hard for me to deliver, even frigging Russ Feingold doesnt like it, youre gonna have to give on something else" Similarly its hard to see how the govt can commit to a hard timetable for withdrawing US troops, when a big chunk of the insurgents (the AQ chunk) is not gonna come in from the cold under any circumstances. And isnt beaten. Yet. But as an opening position for the Baathists, it makes sense. Look at how long it took to form a govt - negotiating with the insurgents will be tougher. And the fact that theres anywhere from a dozen to two dozen insurgent groups makes it even more complex. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2006-06-30 15:48 |
| #11 Odd? Why is that, 6? I read about it here, several times in fact. Is it supposed to be a secret? Lol, if so then Rantburg is more similar to the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed-door session than I thought. :) |
| Posted by: Angomoper Hupoluth6228 2006-06-30 15:21 |
| #10 Odd, are you familiar with the area Anon6228? It's an interesting locale about 15 km wide..... Shia I hear. Lottsa oil.... |
| Posted by: 6 2006-06-30 15:06 |
| #9 Gee Ed if this is true, " One thing the muslims do very well is take over, seize wealth and colonize. ", they sure are a bunch of poverty stricken losers. Oh well, guess you're right we should just give up now and convert.....Oh wait a minute, I forgot the other option....we'll leave now AND NUKE THE S*** OUT OF THE WHOLE HOLE. Let's see how good they are at colonizing then, hmmm? |
| Posted by: AlanC 2006-06-30 15:06 |
| #8 ed - Are you a sponsor of The Republic of Eastern Arabia? |
| Posted by: Angomoper Hupoluth6228 2006-06-30 13:16 |
| #7 "We will keep up our fight to bleed your money dry, kill your men and so that (your forces) go home defeated, as we defeated you in Somalia," bin Laden told US President George W. Bush. Bin Laden is right. The US is spending more than $400 billion a year (increased military, homeland security and imports) fighting people who are spending less than $100 million a year, of which the west is paying. That's a very successful strategy. In the end, the US will leave the region with little or nothing to show for it. Instead, the WOT is the best thing to have happened to muslim power and wealth since invading and plundering South Asia. One thing the muslims do very well is take over, seize wealth and colonize. That has always been the path to victory and something Americans have forgotten. Saudi Arabia alone wll get $200 billion this year from oil. Take it and buy a lot of payback with it. |
| Posted by: ed 2006-06-30 13:02 |
| #6 LOL Somolia comment always cracks me up however it's sad we left the country after the 18 died, I bet we looked like major pu&&ies. Thanks Bill! |
| Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 2006-06-30 13:01 |
| #5 Your #3 and #4 sum it up perfectly, Oldspook. |
| Posted by: Therelet Jush9759 2006-06-30 12:32 |
| #4 Oh one more thing Osama: Bush is not Clinton, and Iraq is not Somalia. But you jsut go right on believing it until we can kill off all the people stupid enough to follow you. |
| Posted by: Oldspook 2006-06-30 10:55 |
| #3 Keep sending them, the Iraqi SF/IP/Army and Coalition forces will keep hunting them down killing them like the dogs they are. Osama, you're going to run out of volunteers long before we run out of bullets. |
| Posted by: Oldspook 2006-06-30 10:54 |
| #2 The Lions of Islam are starting to get a little mangy. Probably comes from inbreeding and not enough sunlight. This is another case of someone trying to speak for "everyone" without defining who that might be. And since Sunni Arab Muslim Scholars don't study anything except the Koran and bombmaking manuals, he shouldn't really carry any weight at all. He may wind up like Al Gore leading a one-man parade. |
| Posted by: RWV 2006-06-30 10:06 |
| #1 Wouldn't it have been better to free the 2500 AFTER everyone agreed to the plan? |
| Posted by: HV 2006-06-30 10:06 |