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"Ye that dare oppose not only tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth!"
2006-07-04
A government of our own is our natural right: And when a man seriously reflects on the precariousness of human affairs, he will become convinced, that it is infinitely wiser and safer, to form a constitution of our own in a cool deliberate manner, while we have it in our power, than to trust such an interesting event to time and chance. If we omit it now, some may hereafter arise, who laying hold of popular disquietudes, may collect together the desperate and discontented, and by assuming to themselves the powers of government, may sweep away the liberties of the continent like a deluge.

Should the government of America return again into the hands of Britain, the tottering situation of things, will be a temptation for some desperate adventurer to try his fortune; and in such a case, what relief can Britain give? Ere she could hear the news, the fatal business might be done; and ourselves suffering like the wretched Britons under the oppression of the Conqueror. Ye that oppose independance now, ye know not what ye do; ye are opening a door to eternal tyranny, by keeping vacant the seat of government. There are thousands, and tens of thousands, who would think it glorious to expel from the continent, that barbarous and hellish power, which hath stirred up the Indians and Negroes to destroy us, the cruelty hath a double guilt, it is dealing brutally by us, and treacherously by them.

To talk of friendship with those in whom our reason forbids us to have faith, and our affections wounded through a thousand pores instruct us to detest, is madness and folly. Every day wears out the little remains of kindred between us and them, and can there be any reason to hope, that as the relationship expires, the affection will increase, or that we shall agree better, when we have ten times more and greater concerns to quarrel over than ever?

Ye that tell us of harmony and reconciliation, can ye restore to us the time that is past? Can ye give to prostitution its former innocence? Neither can ye reconcile Britain and America. The last cord now is broken, the people of England are presenting addresses against us. There are injuries which nature cannot forgive; she would cease to be nature if she did. As well can the lover forgive the ravisher of his mistress, as the continent forgive the murders of Britain. The Almighty hath implanted in us these unextinguishable feelings for good and wise purposes. They are the guardians of his image in our hearts. They distinguish us from the herd of common animals. The social compact would dissolve, and justice be extirpated from the earth, or have only a casual existence were we callous to the touches of affection. The robber, and the murderer, would often escape unpunished, did not the injuries which our tempers sustain, provoke us into justice.

O ye that love mankind! Ye that dare oppose, not only the tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth! Every spot of the old world is overrun with oppression. Freedom hath been hunted round the globe. Asia, and Africa, have long expelled her. Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! receive the fugitive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind. --
Common Sense - Thomas Paine
It's not enough to be in favor of freedom in general, of democracy and libery in principle. What matters is being willing to sacrifice and risk in their defense. Europe still hasn't embraced that fact with any enthusiasm.
Posted by:lotp

#9  And in this case the Tyranny is Islam. The tyrant is dogma whipped into the flesh at an early age.
Surrender and obey, we are your masters.
The first rule is to die for Allan. It's called splodydope.
The second rule is to pursue alternate identities. And so on.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-07-04 15:22  

#8  Blame - the fuel that feeds the mouths of tyrants.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-04 11:53  

#7  This one line is the whole difference in America and Europe

"deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

The whole point here hasn't changed in all these years, "We The People" have nobody else to blame.
In Europe they want to have some big powerful Scapegoat to blame, where the whole difference here is that there's no one "Baddie" to lay the blame on.

However the People still try, hence the scapegoating of Bush (As the biggest, current "Baddie") and not the People realizing that they, themnselves (Ourselves) are the ones to blame.

You don't like it, change it (Nah too much trouble to actually do something) but so easy to blame.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2006-07-04 10:22  

#6  Islam might be enough to wake them up but I think it will have to get really bad first, so bad that its a close run thing if Europe can pull out in time

Have they ever pulled themselves out before? I know Europeans always fought each other but what about stronger outside forces?? I know that tiny Britain used to put up a good fight but it's not looking good for them now with such a strong 5th column. Maybe this just a sequel to the The Roman Conquest.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-04 09:59  

#5  And the failure of the Eurabian continent will be blamed on everyone else other than Europe. The west wouldn't trade with them out of racism, the Christians sabotaged the economies before fleeing. Etc, Etc.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-07-04 09:39  

#4  One problem with the Euros is that after colonialism, WW1 and WW2 and decolonialism they found that the bulk of people willing to fight for their beliefs had been taken out of the gene pool or left to the US. That left Eurocrats in control of the media and the politics.

Islam might be enough to wake them up but I think it will have to get really bad first, so bad that its a close run thing if Europe can pull out in time or if a flood of Christian Europeans heads to North America and Europe truly becomes Eurabia.

On the bright side Turkey will probably gain admittance to the EU at that point, for whatever its worth.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-07-04 09:38  

#3  As the EU bureaucrats have demonstrated, they don't believe in the fundamental difference between them and America in that "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." When the people in Europe rejected the EU Constitution, that was suppose to be that. However, the bureaucrats still plod on seeking to impose government upon the people.
Posted by: Slomoper Jolumble7671   2006-07-04 09:34  

#2  It's not enough to be in favor of freedom in general, of democracy and libery in principle.

I'd be happy if I thought the Euros had gotten this far (with some notable exceptions in England, Denmark, New Europe and maybe the Netherlands). It's because I they haven't that I am not surprised they are willing to neither sacrifice nor risk, even in their own defence. They merely see themselves exchanging one set of masters for another. It's always been the way over there. Brussels, Mecca, what's the difference?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-07-04 09:29  

#1  frightening how relevant these writings seems today when less than a decade ago they seemed like ancient history. I guess it's an indicator of where we are right now. Bittersweet on the happy 4th - thanks.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-04 09:18  

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