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9/11 affected wages of Muslims in US: Study
2006-08-24
Wages and weekly earnings of Arab and Muslim men living in the United States fell by 10 per cent following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, a new study shows. In addition, the adverse affects of September 11 on wages were greater in areas that reported high rates of hate crime related to religious, ethnic or country of origin bias, according to the upcoming study in the Journal of Human Resources.

"I was surprised," Robert Kaestner, study co-author and University of Illinois at Chicago professor of economics, said of the findings. "We see an immediate and significant connection between personal prejudice and economic harm."

Evidence also suggests the terrorists' attacks reduced intrastate migration, making Arab and Muslim men more reluctant to seek better opportunities in new destinations due to the uncertainty of their reception. The study measured changes in wages of first- and second-generation immigrants from countries with predominantly Arab or Muslim populations between September 1997 and September 2005 and compared them to changes in wages of first- and second-generation immigrants with similar skills from other countries.
Posted by:ryuge

#12  >>>
we had better make sure that the real sponsors, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Syria and so forth all begin to take a hit in their collective pocketbooks.
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Notice how we will pay for the knock down and reconstruction of Lebanon while the authors of the fiasco, Iran, Syria, walk away scott free. This is no way to fight this thing.
Posted by: Hupailing Ebbuns2352   2006-08-24 23:48  

#11   Zenster, most of us realized that sort of thing on Sept 11.

To a degree, I did too. Ask Parabellum about my advocating (at another major website which he has tried to use against me), the carpet-bombing of metro-Kandahar immediately after the 9-11 atrocity. I also predicted (and encouraged) the use of fuel-air ordnance against the Taleban at that time. (Sucking the lungs out of their bodies still retains a huge degree of appeal to me.)

As someone who wholeheartedly supports freedom of religion, it was a difficult step for me to immediately support proscription of Islam. Being a tolerant person, I sought every last chance for Muslims to differentiate themselves from that of their fundamentalist and terrorist brethern. To date, they have not, and no longer am I willing to allocate much distinction between Islam and Islamism.

This has been a (not entirely) painful lesson for me, as I have always extended any benefit of the doubt to all and sundry. Quite obviously, with respect to Islam, that sort of Pollyanna mentality has vaporized like the proverbial snowball in hell.

I give full credit to .com in this matter. He, quite validly, pointed out how so few of the suicide homicide bombers came from the households of mullahs and imams. Instead, the vast majority of these heinous criminals have come from the so-called Moderate Muslim™ households. This can only permit me to believe that a significant percentage of Moderate Muslims™ are either incapable or unwilling to steer their own offspring away from the jihadist teachings of whatever local imams instruct them.

Much to the credit of Rantburg, I have had access to thinking that declares Islam to be a political ideology and NOT an ostensible religion. I feel that this is the single most important distinction to be made about Islam. It is a political ideology and NOT any sort of religion. This world must declare it so and treat it accordingly.

To date, it now seems necessary to proscribe any and all emmigration of Muslims to America. Furthermore, it may well prove to be necessary to deport all current Muslims from America. So few American Muslims seem to feel as though integration and NOT differentiation are of importance that I can no longer support their continued influx into American society.

As someone whose own mother and family came from a foreign land (Denmark), is it less than pleasant to uphold a "send them back to where they belong" sort of attitude.

After so many years of incessant Islamist atrocities, I have little choice.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-08-24 22:28  

#10  Zenster, most of us realized that sort of thing on Sept 11. For the life of me I can't understand why there are any visa programs involving Muslim nations at this point. In fact if someone dared to put Muslim on the application during the duration of the conflict they should simply have seen the application filed away until the war is over. That and anyone found here illegally, or employing those here illegally or involved in any way assisting those here illegally should be arrested or expelled as a fairly obvious security measure during the duration.

Clearly it takes a long time to sober out from multiculturalism for some people.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-08-24 20:01  

#9  Islam is not about coexistence.

Which is why I continue to predict a lot of fused smoking glass in their future.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-08-24 18:58  

#8  All Muslims must participate in keeping their religion on the straight and narrow path of peaceful coexistence.

That's not Islam. Islam is not about coexistence.
Posted by: Parabellum   2006-08-24 18:51  

#7  So, my question is; How much longer is world going to put up with the huge cost of having to police Islam's ultra-violent fundamentalists? When are we going to find the collective courage to instruct Islam that, if they cannot begin a program of reporting or expelling jihadist clergy and participants, they are no longer welome as immigrants or visitors?

The astronomically expensive war in Iraq aside, global terror security is costing this world untold BILLIONS OF DOLLARS per month year. This ignores the hidden effects on the global economy due to supression of tourism and increased petroleum prices. Factor those in and the cost certainly rockets to billions of dollars per month. Why is it that we in the West must have this tremendous financial drain thrust upon us?

It is more than clear that a vast majority of terrorists derive from the wahabbist, salafist and deobandi sects of Islam. Saudi Arabia has almost exclusively propagated Wahabbism resulting in the Taleban, al Qaeda and much of the central issues surrounding terrorism. It is time to lay the global war on terror at Saudi Arabia's door. They can make significant monetary contributions to all nations forced to combat terrorism or they can have their oil resources stripped away from them as a punative measure.

This idea has been floated around here for some time, most notably by .com. As the financial impact of global terrorism continues, we had better make sure that the real sponsors, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Syria and so forth all begin to take a hit in their collective pocketbooks.

Again, we have been suckered on a monumental scale to have the duty and cost of fighting Islamic terrorism foisted upon us. Severe consequences must be outlined for Islam, such as revocation of its non-profit standing as a religious organization, labeling it as a political ideology and proscription of its practice from countries that uphold freedom of religion.

Islam's intolerance of all other religions must be broken, by force if necessary. We have no obligation to play by their rules, yet continue to do so like absolute fools. It is time for Islam to clean its own house. All Muslims must participate in keeping their religion on the straight and narrow path of peaceful coexistence. If they find this too onerous a task, we must begin to take measures to isolate them from those countries they seek to destroy.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-08-24 16:22  

#6  I was right there w/ you Rob; no job and i was filing for an extension for unemployment when i finally found a gig; (insert irony here) with the TSA! cause and effect or something. finally got a job cleaning bus station urinals to get my self respect back....
Posted by: USN, ret.   2006-08-24 15:51  

#5  Well, us infidels deserved it. The Prophet's chosen ones, however...
Posted by: tu3031   2006-08-24 13:55  

#4  A few months after 9/11, I was laid off. Took a couple months to find a new job, and took a 33% pay cut in the process.

So pardon me if I don't show a lot of concern over this story.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-08-24 13:03  

#3  The entire economy took a hit after 9/11. The ACLU is waiting for proof of that sort of thing. I find it hard to beleive Muslims were affected worse than the general population (unless you consider that the higher wage ones may have fled and screwed the curve).
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-08-24 12:45  

#2  I was in aviation litigation, so my income fell to zero. Anybody count that?

This article sounds a lot like the gag in the WSJ op ed page: world ends tomorrow, poor and homeless hardest hit.
Posted by: Mark E.   2006-08-24 12:39  

#1  Well if I hunkered down, I dont imagine I'd get alot of job opportunities either.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-08-24 12:38  

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