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Muslim leaders warn of riots
2006-09-01
ISLAMIC leaders are trying to gag Prime Minister John Howard from speaking out against Muslims who refuse to integrate, threatening that any criticism of their culture could lead to another race riot.
But Mr Howard refused to back down - writing exclusively in today's Saturday Daily Telegraph that he believes a minority of Muslims must do more to fit in here.

The head of Mr Howard's own Muslim advisory council, Dr Ameer Ali, yesterday tried to shut down debate on whether Muslims should learn English and treat women as equals by raising the spectre of the shameful Cronulla riots.

Dr Ali warned: "We have already witnessed one incident in Sydney, in Cronulla. I don't want these scenes to be repeated because when you antagonise the younger generation they are bound to react."

Mr Howard also angered young female Muslim leader Iktimal Hage-Ali, who claimed he was targeting "a minority within a minority". Their criticisms came after Mr Howard said on Thursday that some Muslims refused to learn English and did not want to integrate.

A defiant Mr Howard writes today that some Muslims are not doing enough to adhere to Australian customs of equality for women and a "fair go" for all.

"Ninety-nine per centy of the Islamic community of Australia has integrated and is part of the Australian community," he said.

"But I've said before there is a small section, and that is self-evident, that is unwilling to integrate and it's up to all of us to try and overcome that resistance."

Standing by his remarks yesterday, Mr Howard refused to apologise and warned those who are unwilling to fit in would be further marginalised.

"You can't get anywhere unless you learn English. It's the language of the nation. It's the passport to your future," he said.

"You can't get a job, you can't progress, you can't do anything without English and there can't be any compromising on that."

But Ms Hage-Ali, also a member of the Prime Minister's advisory group, said many non-Muslim immigrants also failed to learn to speak English.

"It is a religious group that he has identified. Muslims are already a minority, so effectively he is talking a about a minority within a minority," she said.

She said there were not enough free classes teaching new migrants English.

"There are resources but they cost money. How can they afford the fees?" she said. "I can't imagine an 80-year-old grandmother running out to learn English."

Speaking at the opening of a school hall at Eastwood Heights, Mr Howard said it was imperative that all migrants embraced "Australian values".

He denied targeting only Muslims, saying: "I haven't singled out anybody in particular."

Of the Muslim leaders offended by his comments, Mr Howard said: "They are missing the point and the point is that I don't care, and the Australian people don't care, where people come from."
Posted by:tipper

#12  "Good to know that you're familiar with "The Three Conjectures". If our leaders would only take it seriously..."

I include our (so called) leaders amongst the group that could not find their way out of an alcove.

Posted by: Texas Redneck   2006-09-01 23:59  

#11  I blame the dithering a$$holes we call our politicians.

I could not agree with you more, TR. This is why I keep screaming for the Islamic world to be put on final notice. Whatever it takes, we must impress upon all Muslims the extremely frayed thread from which their collective fate is suspended. The prime indicator that we have done our job correctly will be when panic-stricken Muslims in Islamic nations around the world hurridly overthrow their governments to prevent the lot of them from being incinerated.

Good to know that you're familiar with "The Three Conjectures". If our leaders would only take it seriously, they'd realize that any possibility of a nuclear terrorist attack upon America must be pre-empted by the threat of annihilation for all who plot against us. Wretchard's article should be required reading for all world leaders and imams.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-01 22:48  

#10  Zenster, I read it. Three years ago when it first hit Richards site. And, I have read it periodically since then.

It brings me no comfort. Even a limited nuclear exchange will collapse the global economy, result in the death of at least a billion people and create chaos. I am no longer interested in giving Islam that "Golden Hour". I would prefer its utter destruction or quarantine before the unthinkable happens.

This country is infected, with the vanguard of Islamic colonizers, and the treasonous filth of the left. Both hide behind our laws and Constitution waging warfare and lawfare. Nearly half the country doesn't have the intelligence to find their way out of an alcove.

When the crap hits the fan, there is going to be massive bloodshed, here and just about everywhere else. Things will never be the same, even if the forces of light prevail. I blame the dithering a$$holes we call our politicians.
Posted by: Texas Redneck   2006-09-01 20:51  

#9  My biggest fear is that the scum will ultimately prevail, and the human race will descend back into the dark ages, progress will stop and brutality and ignorance will reign for centuries.

Without wishing to be too ghoulish, this is precisely why nuclear weapons were invented. They instantly mass-sterizile large swaths of infected terrain with the push of a button.

Texas Redneck (and anyone else for that matter), if you have not read Wretchard's "The Three Conjectures", please do so immediately. Scroll down about half-way on the page, past the "Reader Responses" and "Postscript" (read those last).

As mentioned in the article, this is, literally, Islam's "Golden Hour". Not in the historical sense of "Golden Age", but in the medical reference to that critical one hour span where a life can be more easily saved than lost if proper attention is sought.

Islam and its attendant fascist atrocities are rapidly bringing all Muslims to the threshold of utter destruction. As noted in the Belmont Club article, even if America surrendered to Islam, the Russians or Chinese will likely feel no such temptation and would exterminate all Islam without any compunctions.

The only issue up for debate is whether America will eventually find the courage to read Islam the riot act. Every single Muslim majority country needs to be put on notice that even just one nuclear terrorist attack upon America will result in all of them being annihilated.

After manifestly interfering with this planet's proper progress for the last half-decade or more, this tomfoolery must be put to an end. Countless billions of dollars have been diverted by a small collection of fanatics and their silent proponents. This wealth is much better directed to fighting disease, famine, education and providing disaster relief. Instead we are confronted with another 9-11 on a daily basis. Another 3,000 people die every single day as we are distracted by this puny band of ultra-violent psychotics.

If this world was brought under sharia law, it is easy to imagine that half of its population would perish by the sword, lack of modern medicine and technological regression. At some point living with Muslims will prove to be more trouble than simply doing away with them. It requires no complex calculus to realize that one quarter of this planet's population (i.e., Islam) is less deserving of life than half of it.

Unreformed Islam will perish. By whose hand is the only question.

Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-01 18:33  

#8  Aussie Islamic 'leaders' to Mr. Howard: "sure is a nice country you got here, be a shame if something happened to it."

Am I missing something? These leaders are making a threat that any reasonable person (i.e., not a progressive) would recognize as such.

I'm as tolerant as any man, and more than some, but this shit has to stop. Any religious leader that starts making threats against the civil order gets jugged and/or deported.
Posted by: Steve White   2006-09-01 18:15  

#7  This is typical Muzzie shit. Tried and true, and perfected over 1400 years. This is exactly part of the formula they use when colonizing other cultures.

Islam and Moslem peoples need to be quarantined, at the very minimum. Any civilized society that allows them and their filthy cult into their midst, ultimately faces only misery and ruin.

My biggest fear is that the scum will ultimately prevail, and the human race will descend back into the dark ages, progress will stop and brutality and ignorance will reign for centuries.
Posted by: Texas Redneck   2006-09-01 17:58  

#6  I was watching this program last night called Today/Tonight and they had a story on about this woman who has her own business and how she has been forced to close shop after recieving death threats from Men Of Middle Eastern Appearance, one said he was going to throw acid on her face..Anyway every threat they made they tried to justify with the Koran. Actually there were a few reports about Muslims on.. I think things may start getting interesting down under.
Posted by: Oztralian   2006-09-01 17:00  

#5  threatening that any criticism of their culture could lead to another race riot

Do what we want or we'll throw a tantrum.

Dr Ali warned: "We have already witnessed one incident in Sydney, in Cronulla. I don't want these scenes to be repeated because when you antagonise the younger generation they are bound to react."

It won't be the adults throwing the tantrum, of course, who do the reacting, we'll be idly standing by. It will be their Innocent Children(TM) because we goaded them into it!. Hey, it's stupid but it works four us!

"a minority within a minority"

Keep that in mind. It means the majority should be able to reign in the minority, right? In more ways than one . . . .

"There are resources but they cost money. How can they afford the fees?" she said. "I can't imagine an 80-year-old grandmother running out to learn English."

If it's so good in your wonderful home country, then why are you here? If it's so hard in this terrible country, why are you still here?

Ingrates.
Posted by: gorb   2006-09-01 16:32  

#4  Just how big is the muslim population inAustralia? One shipload? Two?
Posted by: DoDo   2006-09-01 16:00  

#3  ISLAMIC leaders are trying to gag Prime Minister John Howard from speaking out against Muslims who refuse to integrate, threatening that any criticism of their culture could lead to another race riot.

Were I Howard, I'd take that as a threat and instantly deport Dr. Ali and anyone else who suggests that riots are an appropriate Islamic response to anything.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-01 15:38  

#2  Yaaassss, the Moderate Muslims (carrot) and the Spontaneous Mob Violence Born From Humiliation And Discrimination (stick)... If this is not an at least implied threat ("theses deprived Youths, they're out of control"), then I don't know what is. don't you like it when it's the majority which has to accomodate the demandful and resentful minority, without any reciprocity? Mulsims and tranzis, a marriage made in Heaven.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-09-01 15:30  

#1  Too bad Australia's disarmed its non-Muslim population. Cronulla-style riots in, say, Alexandria, Louisiana, or Waco, Texas would be kind of entertaining.
Posted by: Glenmore   2006-09-01 15:28  

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