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Home Front: WoT
Not Flying the Unfriendly Skies
2006-09-24
September 24, 2006: Efforts to prevent any more Islamic terror attacks on American passenger aircraft have, on the face of it, been successful. Increased passenger screening, and heavy use of air marshals, appears to be the primary reason for the prevention of terrorist attacks in the air. Or has it? Aviation in the rest of the world has not been nearly as energetic as the United States, and they have also been free of terrorist attacks. In fact, the Islamic terrorists have been attacking other modes of transportation (as in Spanish trains and British buses and subways). In fact, interrogations, and captured terrorist documents and the like, have indicated this shift in target emphasis.

But the increase in air transportation security has had an impact. Fewer people are flying. The airlines don't like to discuss this, but customer satisfaction, and travel, surveys show that people, especially business flyers (the most lucrative kind of passengers) are flying less. The reason is the increased, and seemingly irrational, screening methods. These antics also have a negative effect on the security personnel. There are now 2,100 air marshals (versus 33 on September 11, 2001), and half of them are unavailable (all or part of the time) because of health issues caused by too much time in the air. The air marshals work a heavy schedule, averaging twenty flights a week. Not that it's doing much good. Until this Summer, air marshals had to fly wearing suits, despite the fact that most passengers go casual. Thus the air marshals stick out, giving any potential bad guys an easy way to identify, and take down, the law.
To the TSA screeners at SFO, my 90-year-old mother-in-law must have looked suspicious. Because of her wheelchair it was difficult for her to remove her over-garments and shoes, however the screeners persisted. I guess gray haired English ladies profile as a threat in the Philippines
While the air marshals can now blend in, most flight personnel realize that it is more likely that a mob of enraged passengers is the best defense against any hijackers. Air marshals only fly a small (classified) number of flight, there are many passengers on each flight who are willing to risk all to take down hijackers. The airlines don't like to encourage that sort of thing, but there is it. And the terrorists know it as well, which is why they stay away from air transportation.
So what's the solution -- just give up and let the splodydopes and boxcutter-wielders on board?
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#16  Hell, I'm pissed off enough about not being able to carry on any lotions, gels, etc aboard a flight, (don't get me started on having to remove my dangerous flip flops to satisfy TSA) that if anyone acts up, I'd be willing to get medieval on their asses with little provocation.

I am not looking forward to my next flight at all, and coming from an airline brat that's major.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2006-09-24 23:44  

#15  On a more optimistic note, another JIM BOHANNON show > Author[forgot name] of ROARING THUNDER = America may see within 10 years techy planes which can leave an airfield conventionally and FLY DIRECTLY INTO SPACE. The abovesame author also believes that the USDOD is giving up too many programs and warfighting assets [e.g. F117/SR71] which America still needs to effectivle fight the WOT, and that America as a consequence is being steadily and detrimentally "being virtually disarmed" in favor of SPACE at a time the WOT has not yet been won.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-09-24 21:03  

#14  JIM BOHANNON guestpert> components for 10 kiloton nuke devices have been secretly snuck SINCE 1998 into the USA on OBL's instruction via Mahico/Mexico, that several of these alleged devices are already assembled and ready for detonation at a PC time, Biowar andor Chemwar devices are also being prepared for detonation inside the USA. AMER HIROSHIMAS/NEW 9-11's WILL HAPPEN. * "SINCE 1998" > thus, of course, is Governor Dubya's fault.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-09-24 20:55  

#13  Thanks for everything, Democrat Leon Mineta!
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger1073   2006-09-24 20:34  

#12  Just issue me an extra full can of soda instead of pouring it into a cup. I've got a sock. Also if sandpaper is not on the "no-no" list I could buy the $5box lunch and hone my spork into a shiv.
Posted by: Super Hose   2006-09-24 20:19  

#11  I would smother that MF with a pillow


WTF? You have teeth. He has a neck. Go to it!
Posted by: Frank G   2006-09-24 20:06  

#10  Weapon of choice? Hell, I would smother that MF with a pillow. I would strangle with my bare hands anyone trying to commendeer that plane. Trust me, 9-11 can never happen again now that people know.

TSA nothing. PEOPLE make a place great, NOT a government.
Posted by: newc   2006-09-24 19:55  

#9  There are somewhere between 2M and 5M retired military, and many of us fly at least now and then. Give us a nice, impossible to duplicate photo-id, and let us fly with a "weapon of choice" (but not a hand-gun). I'm gray-haired (what little hair I have left), and walk with a limp. Let me take my walking cane onboard. I dare anyone to try to get by me with that. How many other people would there be who would volunteer to fly as "auxilliaries" to the Air Marshalls, known or unknown? It easily solves the airline-hijacking problem without expanding the federal government or creating other nasty problems. And a few of us would be able to rightly say we're helping the war against islamic terrorism, even though we're "too old" to fight on the front lines. Other suggestions?
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-09-24 18:57  

#8  Flying was miserably unpleasant before 9-11; now it's sheer hell. Any would-be hijacker is truly committing suicide now. Trying to take over a plane full of cramped, crowded people gritting their teeth to get through three hours crammed in a space smaller than a coffin is quite simply asking to be ripped apart by a thoroughly enraged mob.

Hell, maybe that's part of the DHS plan--make every legitimate passenger so damned mad that any he/she would beat the snot out of ANYONE they got a legitimate shot at on the flight. I guarantee you it's been working for me because every time I fly I get so pissed off with the security procedures that by the time I get to my seat, if I had the nuclear football there wouldn't be anything left in the Muslim world but radioactive glass.
Posted by: mac   2006-09-24 18:50  

#7  Assume air marshalls work seven days a week and also that there are two marshalls on each flight-- that's 1500 flights each day with air marshalls on board. Some secret.

The good news is that there is an unknown, but likely large number of Bretts.
Posted by: 6   2006-09-24 17:57  

#6  Air marshals only fly a small (classified) number of flight, Well, the number of flights with air marshalls may have been a secret before old blabber mouth wrote this report. Let's see now,form the artical,there are a total 2100 air marshalls, but only 1050 are available on any given day. They each average 20 flights a week (20 X 1050) 21,000 flights. Assume air marshalls work seven days a week and also that there are two marshalls on each flight-- that's 1500 flights each day with air marshalls on board. Some secret.
Posted by: GK   2006-09-24 14:56  

#5  It was foisted on us by the Democrats who wanted a big new jobs program and forced the President to create it and the DHS by repeatedly saying he was doing nothing to protect us. Then they got PO's when he wouldn't let these fine law enforcement personnel unionize so they could strike and shut down all the airlines at once like PATCO.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-24 14:18  

#4  Remember, folks .... the TSA as govt bureaucracy was foisted on us by Congress.

The resulting idiocy is not entirely inevitable, but to a good degree does flow from that.
Posted by: lotp   2006-09-24 14:10  

#3  Brett's correct. Further, the TSA and everything spent on airport security is wasted, especially if they aren't going to profile ticket purchasers. Ask yourself, is this hassle necessary? Usually not. That's why I haven't flown in 3 years.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-24 14:04  

#2  there are many passengers on each flight who are willing to risk all to take down hijackers.

I fly a fair amount, I have thought issue about this often, and had numerous conversations with fellow (white male businessman) passengers. Below are my thoughts on the subject. I believe my peers pretty much agree with me.

Flight 93 showed the proper path in such a situation. Once you know your life is forfeit, you only have a choice as to how and why you die. Those brave heroes decided that no matter what, they weren't going to their deaths meekly. They would fight to victory, or death. They stopped a much more hellish scene by giving their lives to save the lives of others and the honor of our nation and it's people.

What do I do? I always, always check out the other passengers, following my own threat profile (young. arab. male, behavior, etc.) and looking for any passengers which fit the profile. If I see one that matches my profile, I observe him very closely, looking for any 'reasons for alarm'. Even if I don't spot any reasons, I keep track of where they are during the flight. I always, always get an aisle seat so I have more 'freedon of action'. I have resolved that no commercial airliner I am on will only be used as a "weapon of mass destruction", unless I am dead.

THAT is my policy.
Posted by: Brett   2006-09-24 13:54  

#1  They gave the solution right there. The American public. Under the right circumstances, a random cross-section of Americans have several who are damn dangerous.

How many ultra-violent movies has the typical American seen? They have learned from those movies how to go positively ape-sh*t when they need to.

In a typical airplane packed with Americans, I doubt some screaming psycho could make more than 10 ailes before being tackled. And from that point, he would be lucky to wake up in a hospital.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-09-24 13:40  

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