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| We could bring you to your knees warns Musharraf |
| 2006-09-30 |
| LONDON: General Musharraf has mixed rank self-righteousness with a remarkably stark warning to the West that it could be 'brought to its knees' if Pakistan withdraws its cooperation in the so-called war on terror. Launching a fierce and finger-wagging attack on the West's growing doubts about Pakistan's role in fighting Islamist terrorism, Musharraf said the US and UK had to understand Pakistan is the West's "main ally...If we were not with you, you won't manage anything". In his strongest warning ever on the issue, Musharraf declared, "You'll be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. That is all that I would like to say. Pakistan is the main ally. If we were not with you, you won't manage anything. Let that be clear. And if ISI is not with you, you will fail." But sources here said Musharraf's passionate defence of his country and its infamous intelligence agency early on Saturday morning was yet again undermined after Mumbai's police chief firmly blamed the ISI for planning the 7/11 train blasts. In an extraordinary coincidence, Musharraf issued his blunt warning to the West to cease doubting Pakistan's role and commitment to fighting terrorism just a couple of hours before the Mumbai blasts were formally alleged to have been masterminded by the ISI. Commentators said that Musharraf's attempt to silence Western critics of Pakistan came across as blustering over-defensiveness after the Indian allegation. Musharraf's firm denial of Pakistani two-facedness in the war on terror came just days after a leaked British report criticized the ISI for fomenting Islamist radicalism by indirectly helping the Taliban and al-Qaeda. Late on Thursday, an angry Musharraf challenged British Prime Minister Tony Blair on the issue and received a public assurance that the British government does not doubt Islamabad's commitment to fighting terrorism. But Musharraf, who remained in the UK over the weekend, has let it be known he is riled about Western doubts over Pakistan 's role in the war on terror. With a visible sense of entitlement, Musharraf said the US and UK should acknowledge a "historic debt" of gratitude to Pakistan because it had helped "win the Cold War" for the West. Blaming the West for creating al-Qaeda, he said it had been foolish for the West to arm and train the mujahideen to fight the Soviets and then leave them to turn their rage - and weapons - on their creator. Insisting that Pakistan was left "high and dry" by the West and left to deal with the purposeless mujahideen on its own, Musharraf argued that it was unfair to blame his country for all the evils of the world. The stern rebuke and warning to the West comes as Musharraf assumes an increasingly combative and hectoring tone on the ever touchier subject of Pakistan's real role in the war on terror. Late on Friday, the General delivered the same message in a speech to students and academics at Oxford University. He demanded that the West to offer assistance rather than criticism to Pakistan's battle against terrorism. And he blithely batted aside criticism from Amnesty International that his government was illegally detaining innocent people on suspicion of terrorism, secretly imprisoning them and transferring them to US custody for money. |
| Posted by:john |
| #25 Perv is heading into an election. One of the biggest things the Islamists have been hitting him with is that he is "the US's lap dog". After the election, let's see what he has to say. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2006-09-30 23:05 |
| #24 does anybody think this is a bright move. OTOH ISI demonstrated their power with the assasination in Balochistan. OTOH Iran is close to having a nuclear device of their own. Looking at it from the perspective of domestic and Muslim politics, aligning himself with these forces looks like a winning move indeed. He thinks he's aligning himself with the winning side, at least in his own neighborhood. Remember, this is the man who authorized the Pakistani army's attack on Indian forces at Kargil but brazenly claimed for a long time that it was the work of Kashmiris. He's not quite the wimp he appears. |
| Posted by: unfortunately ... 2006-09-30 21:18 |
| #23 From somewhere in the Indian Ocean soon... 12 (or there-abouts)empty tubes; 12 (or there-abouts) lovely mushroom clouds, now it's "Miller Time". (Oops, Miller just went multi-natl. Make that Budweiser, Coors, Oly, etc.) |
| Posted by: Asymmetrical Triangulation 2006-09-30 21:03 |
| #22 Beyond the overheated rhettoric we in the West notice, does anybody think this is a bright move. Hes basically saying that Pakistan is the lynchpin to Al Queda victory and making himself somewhat of a target. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2006-09-30 19:20 |
| #21 US to Pakistan: we can vaporize you. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-09-30 19:11 |
| #20 The guy needs an enema - he has to be constipated to be that full of sh$$. Lol! Perv's been playing both sides of the fence for since the get go. That's never a good idea. |
| Posted by: anon 2006-09-30 19:02 |
| #19 Oh, Perv, Stone Age calling |
| Posted by: Captain America 2006-09-30 18:47 |
| #18 Perv is in this up to his balding tip. Al Q's recent tape Zacki demands scientists with biologics and "dirty" bombs. That message was directed at Perv. Binnie and the lads pay him an amazingly pretty penny for the sanctuary and the support. This is their demand of him. Perv is also taking an amazingly pretty penny from the West for his "assistance" in the WOT. And the poor boy can barely keep his lies straight at this point. he's dead in six months. And India better be ready. |
| Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-09-30 18:36 |
| #17 What a monumental maroon. The Brits created Pakiwackiland out of nothing, and gave it to the muslim nutjobs, partly as a snub to India and Mahatma Ghandi's activities. We've helped them create a nation in exchange for some "help" - a launch site for U-2 overflights of Russia, a chance to keep an eye on a left-leaning India, and listening-posts near the main Russian Cosmodrome as it was being developed. We've asked for a little help today to bring down the taliban. Instead, Pervert lectures us: it's our fault the ISI-backed (created?) taliban took over Afghanistan, we "can't win" without Pakland's help, and Pervert's our biggest ally in the GWOT. The guy needs an enema - he has to be constipated to be that full of sh$$. The pak military wouldn't last half as long as Iraq's "vaunted" republican guard, their air force and navy would be history in less than three days, and we could literally glass the country over if that was what we decided was necessary. Pervert, save your wind for someone who might believe it. You're a dead man walking from this moment on, either at home or wherever you choose to go into exile. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2006-09-30 18:11 |
| #16 Selling books won't do him much good if we have to glass him. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2006-09-30 17:37 |
| #15 The Rat That Roared. |
| Posted by: .com 2006-09-30 17:34 |
| #14 This is bad news cause who will own Pakistans nukes in the near future? Quite possibly, the USA. If Musharraf lost power to a genocidal mullahcracy it might well require us to come in and confiscate their nuclear weapons, quite possibly at the threat of pre-emptive nuclear attack. Such a scenario would even push back the importance of intervention in Iran. Islam has proven itself so immune to logic and reason that there is no way to believe that Pakistani mullahs wouldn't either hand off a few nuclear devices to terrorists or launch them against Israel themselves. Iran has already made clear its willingness to commit mass suicide in such a pursuit, we must believe that other theocratic Muslim regimes could do the same. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-09-30 17:29 |
| #13 It looks that General Musharraf is in the last days as the ruler of Pakistan. He seems to be loosing his grip on his military. This is bad news cause who will own Pakistans nukes in the near future? |
| Posted by: Ebboling Flavick8335 2006-09-30 17:08 |
| #12 You are way behind the time, Perv. Back in the 40s, yes, our bombariers would aim our nukular weapons from a kneeling position. Nowadays, it's seated in a comfy chair and turning a key. And that's what would happen eventually. We'll remember General LeMay "War is about killing people, and if you kill enough, they stop fighting." I hope it doesn't take 1.2 billion, but I would sleep just fine at night if it did. |
| Posted by: Jackal 2006-09-30 15:59 |
| #11 Wonder what he would say if we threatened to sell Pakistan back to India cost (being they occupy it and actually kill terrorist) take Balouchistan in the South give them independence and put Warizistan into Afghanistan so we can roll over AQ/Taliban once and for all. I think Musharaf's flirting with China has made them forget who thier Daddy is. Time to check a b*tch. |
| Posted by: C-Low 2006-09-30 15:45 |
| #10 Perv should take a good long look around him at Afghanistan and Iraq to see what befalls those who change teams. I would welcome his realignment with terrorists. Nothing could please me more than to have Pakistan scrubbed clean of its terrorist madrassahs, be it with regime change or nuclear fire, I no longer care which. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-09-30 15:12 |
| #9 Musharraf himself already spends 24-7 on his knees. The General is gay for the Taliban and refuses to do the necessary house cleaning. What the towel head for Allah does not understand, America on its knees is worth 400 Pakilands. Spit! |
| Posted by: Icerigger 2006-09-30 15:10 |
| #8 and from our knees, the USAF will provide close air support for the Indian Army as they wipe you and your pissant midieval kingdom off the face of the earth and force the few survivors to convert to Hinduism. Think of the countryside covered with cartoons showing Shiva kicking Mohammed's ass to entice your "lions of Islam" out of their holes where they can be more easily killed. |
| Posted by: RWV 2006-09-30 15:08 |
| #7 I wouldn't mention kneecaps if I were you, Perv. |
| Posted by: mojo 2006-09-30 15:04 |
| #6 But to what exent does Perv really control the ISI? No operational control over ISI and MI, defence ministry tells court KARACHI, July 11: The ministry of defence exercises only administrative control over Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Military Intelligence (MI) and it does not have any operational control or jurisdiction to enforce the courtÂ’s direction on these agencies, an official of the ministry informed the Sindh High Court on Tuesday. Mull over that a second. The Pak Government (Defence Ministry) has no control over Pak Military Intelligence and the ISI. Or at least that is what they told the Sindh High Court |
| Posted by: john 2006-09-30 14:38 |
| #5 Perv has gotten too big for his britches. |
| Posted by: Mark Z 2006-09-30 14:04 |
| #4 But to what exent does Perv really control the ISI? My guess would be "hardly at all." I think it was a mistake to humiliate (and possibly weaken) him in this way; he really is the best Pakistani leader we could ever hope for. |
| Posted by: Cruns Thrineter6704 2006-09-30 14:01 |
| #3 "You'll be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. QED. You'll never catch the West making a threat like that. |
| Posted by: gorb 2006-09-30 13:51 |
| #2 You'll be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. That is all that I would like to say. Pakistan is the main ally. If we were not with you, you won't manage anything. Let that be clear. And if ISI is not with you, you will fail. Translation: you stupid infidels cannot resist anybody with a well developed sense of entitlement. |
| Posted by: gromgoru 2006-09-30 12:45 |
| #1 from our knees we can still glass you over, asshole. What a delusional pretentious ass |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-09-30 12:45 |