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| Fitzgerald: No hearts or minds will be won in such fashion |
| 2006-10-06 |
| Greetings again from [Iraqi location]. I am a daily reader and just wanted to share an experience I had yesterday at a weekly meeting given by the [military] staff to the [military officers]. I arrived in typical fashion, early to get a seat and grab a beverage prior to the rush. When I approached the small fridge to grab a soda, I was told by another staff officer “sorry, no drinks, it’s Ramadan”. Incredulously, I replied, what!!!?. Turns out, we had 2 visiting Iraq Generals briefing a future operation, and in an effort to be culturally sensitive, the order was put out there would be no drinking in the presence of the Iraqis. Greatly displeased, I drove on and found my seat. This Major was on a mission, there would be no drinking as I watched her chastise numerous officers. She then came to a man of Middle Eastern appearance in civilian dress who took up a seat behind the yet to arrive Iraqi Generals. He pulled out a cranberry juice from his pocket, and was quickly told he would not be aloud to drink anything during the meeting. He was clearly agitated, but put the juice away. It apparently slipped by the dutiful Major that the man she was correcting was an Iraqi translator who was Muslim! He was the Iraqi Generals personal translator. – from this letter from a military man in Iraq [..] More at link |
| Posted by:3dc |
| #6 Had nearly the same problem when we pulled into Al Jubail. One could drink coffee on deck, but on the side away from the pier. The Saudis had one or two of the mutwadeen at the pier's access point at all times. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2006-10-06 21:16 |
| #5 Whilst on active duty, our CV had the pleasure(?) of pulling into Dubai during Ramadmadingdong; while out in town we had to play by their rules and i understood (but didn't like it) that, being guests in their house and all, but when we were back on the base, we still had to play. the only place we didn't have to was when we were back on board, even then the OOD and the brow watches couldn't even have water visible. They had to duck inside to get a drink. But being the hypocrites that they were, they had 'an American Room' set up in the back of a hotel where we could buy beer, and smoke to our infedel hearts' content. And they were happy to sell to us. how long before the attempt is made to force this BS in the USA???? |
| Posted by: USN, ret. 2006-10-06 15:25 |
| #4 It is time for these people to start thinking about how to win American hearts and minds. Mass murder, a culture of rape and the prospect of a global rule by a death cult seem a poor way to go about the project. Perhaps they might consider inventing something useful, endowing medical research or building something for themselves rather than paying other people do it using money stolen from oil production they did not develop, could not maintain and put to no good use. |
| Posted by: Flea 2006-10-06 12:31 |
| #3 The redicullous thing is Islam makes numerous exceptions to fasting during Ramadan. For example, diabetics are exempt. What if this Bozo had tried to impose her will on a diabetic Muslim? Al |
| Posted by: Frozen Al 2006-10-06 11:57 |
| #2 The generals take their cues from the political leadership. |
| Posted by: ed 2006-10-06 08:30 |
| #1 Does America have any REAL Generals left, or just spineless 'culturally sensitive' PC wimps? |
| Posted by: mcsegeek1 2006-10-06 08:22 |