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Fischer warns of a "blind" Europe on Mideast
2006-10-26
Germany's former foreign minister Joschka Fischer kicked off his lecture series at Princeton University with a warning that Europe was being shortsighted and even "blind" when it came to Turkey and the Middle East. "Europe's security is no longer defined on its eastern borders, but in the eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East," Fischer was quoted as saying in the Daily Princetonian, the university's online newspaper.

Fischer is lecturing at the university for the current school year.

Fischer, a member of the Green Party who served under Social Democratic Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder from 1999 to 2005, called European hesitance to admit Turkey into the European Union "blind and irresponsible."

"Turkey should be a security pillar for the European community, and the efforts to derail that relationship are impossibly shortsighted," Fischer was quoted as saying. Fischer said the terrorist bombings in London and Madrid showed that the Middle East "is truly our backyard, and we in the EU must cease our shortsightedness and recognize that." Germany did not back the US in its invasion of Iraq. Fischer said he doubted the American public "really knew that going into Baghdad means taking over the whole burden of the Middle East, and also we felt that with a Shia majority, how could you bring democracy to Iraq without playing into the cards of Iran?"

He said the challenge of Islamic terror must be answered with intelligence, police, and military assets - but also "by answering the intellectual poverty that has prevented modernization in the Islamic nations from bringing peace."
Posted by:Seafarious

#14  Some *ahem* people aren't on speaking terms with the truth.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-10-26 23:49  

#13  Can't handle the truth?
Posted by: Contrarian   2006-10-26 23:25  

#12  trollery
Posted by: Frank G   2006-10-26 23:17  

#11  If Europe had stood with US and UK and Ozland, firmly and unbendingly, this thing would be wrapped up by now.

Ri-i-i-i-ight. Europe doesn't have a worthwhile military, remember?
So your failure in Iraq is now Europe's fault.
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHA HA!!!
Posted by: Contrarian   2006-10-26 23:04  

#10  Baba, one might hope that former foreign ministers of major powers would not also be former Marxist terrorists.

Sgt. Mom, maybe he's trying to keep the girl next to him from smelling the hippie B.O. Or maybe he's trying to strike a tuff Che pose.
Posted by: exJAG   2006-10-26 15:09  

#9  the intellectual poverty that has prevented modernization in the Islamic nations from bringing peace

While intellectual ossification is a hallmark of the Islamic world, it is far from clear that education brings enlightenment or peace. Zawahiri, for example, has a medical degree. Sayid Qutb wrote eloquently about the need for Islam to conquer the West after his experience teaching at a US college in the 1950's. KSM studied engineering in the US. Mohammed Atta had a master's degree from a German university.

We are confronted with an ideological challenge to liberal democracy. More education is well and good, but it is the willingness of those who enjoy Western civilization to stand for its foundational ideas that will decide the matter. One might hope that former foreign ministers of major powers would understand the issues.
Posted by: Baba Tutu   2006-10-26 14:11  

#8  "Please. If Europe had stood with US and UK and Ozland, firmly and unbendingly, this thing would be wrapped up by now..."

Glad to see somebody else recognizes this, Sea. It would have taken more than Germany, but can the world see how the current mess might never have taken root had the "international community" stood with us in getting rid of Saddam and promoting the concept of self-responsible democracy in the Mideast? No-their anti-Americanism reigned supreme. They wanted us to take a hit; they lacked and still lack the vision to see what the cost of their selfish urge will be. We should all hold the "international community" for the current mess.
Posted by: Jules   2006-10-26 13:54  

#7  ExJag, in the second picture... why is he grabbing his man-boobs? Is he making sure they are still there?
Posted by: Sgt. Mom   2006-10-26 13:46  

#6  Turkey should be a security pillar for the European community

Sure thing, buckey, but just saying it doesn't make it so. Let's see if the Pope gets out of there alive before we even begin to give Turkey any benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: Korben Dallas   2006-10-26 04:03  

#5  We completely agree! Even on the solution, submit.
Posted by: AhMadIMNutJob   2006-10-26 03:30  

#4  "Europe's security is no longer defined on its eastern borders, but in the eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East,"

I think that AhMadI'MNutJob is in a total agreement.
Posted by: twobyfour   2006-10-26 03:01  

#3  Yawn. Another worthless radical indoctrinating a new generation of worthless radicals.

Let's not forget Fischer's Chappaquiddick moment (he's the one in the helmet, hitting the cop; from 1973):



Joschka's Red Brigade days:


Posted by: exJAG   2006-10-26 01:12  

#2  Germany did not back the US in its invasion of Iraq. Fischer said he doubted the American public "really knew that going into Baghdad means taking over the whole burden of the Middle East, and also we felt that with a Shia majority, how could you bring democracy to Iraq without playing into the cards of Iran?"

Ri-i-i-i-ight, Joschka. Such a wise and prescient man you are. Your 20/15 foresight kept Germany out of Iraq, a lion among the dwarves. Well, that or the near-fatal case of BDS.

Please. If Europe had stood with US and UK and Ozland, firmly and unbendingly, this thing would be wrapped up by now. Instaed you took the sniveling weasel way out, stabbing us in the back politically in the UN and publically in the media.

Feh.
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-10-26 00:48  

#1  He said the challenge of Islamic terror must be answered with intelligence, police, and military assets - but also "by answering the intellectual poverty that has prevented modernization in the Islamic nations from bringing peace."

Su madre, cabron!
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-10-26 00:35  

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