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| Sheik Hilaly on why women are 90% responsible for adultery |
| 2006-10-29 |
The following are extracts from Sheik Taj Din al-Hilaly’s controversial sermon given last month, as independently translated by an SBS Arabic expert.“Those atheists, people of the book (Christians and Jews), where will they end up? In Surfers Paradise? On the Gold Coast? Where will they end up? In hell and not part-time, for eternity. They are the worst in God’s creation.” |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #39 We should not all have to chime in with said assurances, any more than that every woman should have to say "not a prostitute/slut" for being born with the equipment to be one sigh Whatever. I'm not going to get into this. It's obviously a sore spot, and whichever one of us needs to get over old hurts, let's just do it. OK? |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-10-29 20:49 |
| #38 My point was that every RB sporting a penis is not a rapist, by any stretch of the imagination. We should not all have to chime in with said assurances, any more than that every woman should have to say "not a prostitute/slut" for being born with the equipment to be one. Get over your past personal issues or accept the criticism for being a demagogue. Sorry if that pisses you off, but you're wrong. If someone raped my daughter, they'd be lucky if the cops got em first. Don't paint me with that shit. I won't stand for it |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-10-29 20:40 |
| #37 Or when such flatulence is expressed in a group, we ignore it and the person expressing it. Repetitive behavior is noted and the guilty party is eventually ostracized. |
| Posted by: mrp 2006-10-29 20:24 |
| #36 lotp, I hereby disavow comment #4. Frank's right, however, you ought to lighten up. When men speak among themselves, they use low dirty statements which are not used in the presence of ladies. It's no excuse, but I'm sure the males here don't mean to belittle the ladies here. It's difficult to talk about Islam without using street profanity. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2006-10-29 20:13 |
| #35 Having not avowed it, I feel no need to disavow it. But I do think it's pretty disgusting. I think you're being too hard on Frank, lotp -- I understand his point completely and I think you've twisted his words a bit after your "OTOH". There's way too much gratuitous Muslim-bashing going on at Rantburg lately. For me, there's a vast difference between advocating bombing a threatening enemy (Iran) and advocating deportion of American citizens solely on the basis of religion or raping women to make a point. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2006-10-29 20:12 |
| #34 Jeebus indeed, Frank. Your message is incoherent IMO. On the one hand you want the respect of an assumption that you and others don't condone rape, without having to say that. OTOH, you assure me that if you HAD a problem with the proposed rapes, you'd say so. Which is it? Honestly, I am not looking for a fight. You might note that I did NOT a) redact Planet Dan's comment, b) respond to it when it was posted or c) attack you or him or anyone else here. I DID think the proposal was worth disavowing openly. I still do. |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-10-29 19:53 |
| #33 "If your cat gets frisky, neuter it". Paging Loreena Bobbit! |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-10-29 19:30 |
| #32 well, as the saying goes, because I'm equipped with the apparatus to be a rapist don't make me one, any more than your equipment makes you a whore. Repect is a mutual thing, and I get tired of defending myself for the sins of SOME. Capice? If I have a required level of outrage to respond, then I'll do a macro. I'd think you're grown up enoigh to not have every male on this blog log in with their outrage, right, Jeebus, Robin |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-10-29 19:27 |
| #31 No need to preach to the choir, Frank .... but I did notice a singular lack of response to that proposal. If I'm overly touchy on this issue, forgive me. Years ago I was attacked twice by would-be rapists and a young woman close to me actually was gang raped at a party. It's not a theoretical issue for me. |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-10-29 19:14 |
| #30 As has been said muliple times in the Blogosphere since we recieved this wisdom, "If your cat gets frisky, neuter it". |
| Posted by: Gleretle Orchidectomy8106 2006-10-29 18:57 |
| #29 Solution: Target women in hijab for rape. Prove this asswipe wrong. BONG! way outa line there Mekon. |
| Posted by: pihkalbadger 2006-10-29 18:27 |
| #28 it's Allan's will. He should like back and enjoy it - to coin a phrase |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-10-29 18:05 |
| #27 lotp-yes, I think Hilaly would mind very much if he were on the receiving end of forced sodomy. Torn perineal tissues and anal fissures, hemorrhoids, and humiliation galore. Big time damage. And quite parallel, psychologically. |
| Posted by: Jules 2006-10-29 17:46 |
| #26 Just walked in, so sorry to disappoint lotp by not adding my voice earlier. For the record, a rapist, whether the victim is bikini-clad or draped like a curtain, should be horse-whipped. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2006-10-29 17:44 |
| #25 no need to preach to the choir, LOTP, k? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-10-29 16:53 |
| #24 Agreed. Planet Dan is generally a straight shooter. I'm glad he comments here. HOWEVER. The idea of raping a woman because of her beliefs or the beliefs of the men around her is abhorent. LET'S BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. It's against everything we stand and fight for IMO. On a more practical level, do you think this son of a bitch would mind? Other than that his own 'honor' was besmirched of course. Raping muslim women would be about in the same category as keying his new car, so far as one can tell from his spit sermons. |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-10-29 16:45 |
| #23 One more vote for the just-as-pissed-off faction. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-10-29 16:41 |
| #22 Frank-Yep. Planet Dan, we know you're on the right side and are just as pissed off as you are. |
| Posted by: Jules 2006-10-29 16:04 |
| #21 “If the man is in his boudoir, in his house and if he’s wearing the veil and if he shows modesty, disasters don’t happen.” There. Fixed it. |
| Posted by: gorb 2006-10-29 15:49 |
| #20 I figured it wasn't worth the key strokes. Planet Dan has always been a straight thinker before, and I bet he wishes he had that one back |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-10-29 15:40 |
| #19 I'll be forthright enough to admit that such a thing crossed my mind as well, but was immediately and resolutely rejected. In the long run it would prove nothing except that senseless brutality is not Islam's almost exclusive domain. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-10-29 15:35 |
| #18 Thank you. I've been waiting and watching to see if anyone besides me found #4 well beyond the pale. |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-10-29 15:29 |
| #17 I appreciate the sentiment, Jules, but no thanks are necessary. There is no such thing as "deserved rape" on the part of any innocent person. That Islam countenances, not to mention decrees it, is sufficient condemnation of this bogus religion all by itself. Just to forestall those who might want to point out my "prison wife" comments about al-Hilali; This maggoty Mufti is far from innocent. Using his pulpit to ameliorate the guilt of gang rapists makes him deserving of a similar fate. How many women have suffered some of the very worst trauma imaginable because of this loathsome shithead's ravings? Now think of how many young Islamic women that have suffered genital mutilation at the hands of their parents becuse (and I'd bet the farm on this one), this vile cretin more than likely supports female genital mutilation as well. This one individual is responsible for untold lifetimes of grotesque suffering. The sooner he catches a slug, the sooner this would can heal. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-10-29 15:26 |
| #16 Thanks, Zen, for adding a male voice to this fight. Every man that joins us strengthens the argument against "deserved rape" and puts in stark relief the difference between Islamic equal rights and Western equal rights. |
| Posted by: Jules 2006-10-29 14:59 |
| #15 Solution: Target women in hijab for rape. Prove this asswipe wrong Bzzzzzzt!!! WRONG. As yet, Muslim women remain victims of Islam more than anything else. They get raped enough at home already, thank-you-very-much. Jules is far closer to the crux of things. Giving some less-than-respectful Aussie prisoners a chance to turn al-Hilali into an obedient prison wife would be far more appropriate in this case. Sadly, the Australian government has effectively declared hands-off of this rather repulsive SOB. Try to remember that Islam essentially holds women responsible for the vast majority of this world's ills. By extension of the Eden myth shared in common throughout Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions, Eve is seen as having led man astray from the word of God. She is the foul temptress and sex is her weapon of choice. Feminine wiles are such that no (Islamic) man can possibly withstand their siren song. For this reason, women are almost completely concealed, the better to prevent Islamic men from being driven mad by their salacious and irresistible lure. This is why al-Hilali blames all unconcealed women for rape. And make no mistake that he is referring to all unveiled women and not just prostitutes. The translation of his speech reveals not a single reference to whores, merely uncovered That is disturbing. Very disturbing indeed, Clkethel OHlkdj. As you can see, despite there being some talk of censure or reprimand, the overall response by Australian Muslims is the usual Thundering Silence whenever there is a base affront to Western sensibilities. Perish the thought that a single printed Worst of all is how al-Hilali is deemed a moderate. What should we expect from radicals and extremists? More importantly, this sort of vile spewing is accepted as moderate doctrine by antipodal Muslims. That is the most damning thing of all. Finally, the Lakemba mosque where al-Hilali preaches is the recipient of government funding. One can only hope that Australian politicians see the light and cut off all disbursements to this Islamic cesspool. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-10-29 14:42 |
| #14 !/2 |
| Posted by: Shipman 2006-10-29 12:24 |
| #13 Lol. STTGPTAHWTFHM, lol. |
| Posted by: .com 2006-10-29 12:18 |
| #12 You know Satans Army WBAPGNFAB |
| Posted by: Shipman 2006-10-29 12:17 |
| #11 Half of Satan's army are women, the rest are sheep, goats, donkeys, and boys. There's Allan's moral code. If a man lusts, then he is forgiven, whatever happens. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2006-10-29 11:06 |
| #10 If a whole mosque full of dumbass muslims sit there and agree with shit like this, there is no helping them. They are dumbfucks, they should go back to Yemen, or Lybia or wherever the fuck they are from and worry about their women showing their ankles. Good goddamned riddance I say. |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2006-10-29 09:39 |
| #9 He's basically saying that Islam is so degenerate and sexually repressed that the men simply cannot help themselves. If they see a ankle or god-forbid a calf they simply go into a sexual feeding frenzy. They can't help themselves and its all the womans fault. He's saying that Muslim men are simply no better then animals. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2006-10-29 09:33 |
| #8 No, Planet Dan. Raping different women is not going to make him understand what rape is. Forcibly sodomizing scantily clad Muslim men could be persuasive, but instead of pushing for more sexual violence, how bout just arguing that point? |
| Posted by: Jules 2006-10-29 08:59 |
| #7 Remember, this is the Mufti, the grand leader of all Muslims throughout New Zealand and Australia. He's widely regarded as a moderate, Thanks Zenster. That is disturbing. |
| Posted by: Clkethel OHlkdj 2006-10-29 07:53 |
| #6 According to al-Hilali himself, that whole tirade was supposed to be about prostitutes and not regular women all non-muslem women are prostitutes, don'tcha know? But wait, I see a problem. Didn't his daughter say yesterday that he was just misunderstood because he only said this to a bunch of old men to encourage them to keep their daughters modest? Maybe I dreamed that? |
| Posted by: Clkethel OHlkdj 2006-10-29 07:51 |
| #5 “If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meat’s? What I can't figure out is why it's the meat's fault in his "sermon" and not the fault of the man who left the meat out. Remember - it's "your kilo of meat" as he says. Then "you" must be responsible. Still no powers of reason in inshallah land, howefver twisted. If you leave a mountain of dung-covered korans uncovered and the flies get at it, who's fault is it? The dung-covered korans or the flies? |
| Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-10-29 07:41 |
| #4 1. There is no correlation between "scantily clad" women and rape 2. Solution: Target women in hijab for rape. Prove this asswipe wrong |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2006-10-29 06:56 |
| #3 Mark in Mexico pays tribute to his favorite cat food: http://markinmexico.blogspot.com/2006/10/mufti-of-australia-says-women-with-no.html |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2006-10-29 01:40 |
| #2 It's all that gawddamned raw meat laying around everywhere. It's on the streets, the parks, the beaches. It's everydamnwhere. It's the meat's fault. Bag it. Get it into bags before anyone catches a whiff of the scent and loses all control. Get the bags shut. Vacuum seal them. Get more bags, there's meat all over this place. |
| Posted by: SpecOp35 2006-10-29 01:19 |
| #1 Wow. According to al-Hilali himself, that whole tirade was supposed to be about prostitutes and not regular women. Funny how the word, whore, pro, tramp or floozie doesn't show up even once. “Satan sees women as half his soldiers. You’re my messenger in necessity, Satan tells women you’re my weapon to bring down any stubborn man. There are men that I fail with. But you’re the best of my weapons.” Someone needs to tell al-Hilali that, in reality, he is the best of Satan's weapons ... right before they push a slug into this shitbag's brain. Remember, this is the Mufti, the grand leader of all Muslims throughout New Zealand and Australia. He's widely regarded as a moderate, just like Sheik Yusuf |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-10-29 01:00 |