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Iran: US should stop Gulf maneuvers
2006-11-04
The United States should get the message that it should stop conducting maneuvers in the Gulf, an Iranian admiral said Friday after his navy had tested three new missiles.
Why don't you c'mon over and conduct some maneuvers in the Gulf of Mexico. Beyond your capabilities? Aw... your bad, lol.
Iranian state television broadcast footage of the Revolutionary Guards firing naval-warfare missiles with a range of about 170 kilometers (106 miles). It was the second day in a row that Iran had announced the development of missiles and their testing in its military maneuvers.

The tests and military exercises came only days after the US conducted naval maneuvers in the Gulf, and as the UN Security Council members wrangle over what steps to take against Iran for ignoring its call to cease uranium enrichment - an ingredient of nuclear bombs.

"Our enemies should keep their hostility out of the Persian Gulf," said Adm. Sardar Fadavi, the deputy chief of the Revolutionary Guards navy.
That's our job!
"They should not initiate any move that would make the region tense," Fadavi said in a clear reference to the United States. The admiral was speaking to state radio about the US-led maneuvers, that finished Monday and which Teheran branded "adventurist."
Lol - been talking to the Russkies.
Fadavi said the missiles tested Friday demonstrated Iran's naval capabilities, and had been "improved by our domestic technology" - implying they were based on missiles that Iran had acquired.
Yep. We did it. It's all ours. Home grown. Yewbetcha.
Iran is widely believed to have bought missile technology from North Korean. Its ballistic missile, the Shahab-3 - one of dozens of rockets fired Thursday - is thought to be based on North Korea's Nodong missile.
Lies!
The US military said Friday it had taken note of Iran's missile tests.
Yeah. We saw 'em. *snicker*
"Countries throughout the region perform exercises on a regular basis, including Iran," said Capt. Gary Arasin at US Central Command in Florida. "It's something that we monitor."

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday, when Iran began its 10-day maneuvers, that the Iranians were "trying to demonstrate that they are tough."

"They are trying to say to the world 'you are not going to keep us from getting a nuclear weapon'," Rice told a Cincinnati radio. "The world has to say to them, yes, we will."

Iranian expert Andrew Hess, a professor of diplomacy at the Fletcher School, Tufts University, Boston, said the missile tests were part of a campaign by Iran to "assert its political power in the Gulf region."

"It's a continuation of their view that the Gulf region is a sphere of Persian influence, and it ought to be the predominant power in that area," Hess said.
Brilliant.
Hess said the Arab states of the Gulf were likely to be concerned about Iran's growing military power, but they would not take a strong stand against the maneuvers for fear of increasing tension.
I don't think "tension" is the right word.
Iran routinely denies that its maneuvers are intended to intimidate neighboring states. The spokesman for the current war games, Gen. Ali Fazli, said Friday: "The maneuvers are not a threat to any neighboring country."
No, no, of course not. Perish the Saudis and all the rest of the fucking Sunnis thought.
But the Gulf states have long been concerned about Iran, a Shiite Muslim country, stirring trouble in their own Shiite communities. In addition, the United Arab Emirates has a long running territorial dispute with Iran over some islands in the Gulf.
We've cursed their mustaches for decades.
Iranian TV said the new naval missiles - named Noor, Kowsar, and Nasr - had a range 50 kilometers (30 miles) greater than its existing warship rockets.

Fadavi said the forces would also be testing some air-to-ground missiles during the maneuvers.
Of course. Carry on.
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#16  Whats a'down nar TAIWAN wayzes, Paw!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-11-04 22:59  

#15  Re#3, 'Moose: IIRC this past week, Dinnerjacket replaced some of his top Air Force guys with those more inclined to think like him; in other words, 'yes men.' So as long as the 'king has new clothes,' they are in good shape (not).
Posted by: USN,Ret   2006-11-04 22:26  

#14  Why don't you c'mon over and conduct some maneuvers in the Gulf of Mexico. Beyond your capabilities? Aw... your bad, lol.

BWAAAAA!!!
Posted by: 49 Pan   2006-11-04 20:48  

#13  "Iran: US should stop Gulf maneuvers"

Which part of NO do you not understand, Ahma-dina-nutjob?

I'm sure President Bush would be glad to send the Air Force someone to explain it to you.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-11-04 20:39  

#12  It doesn't take a "rocket surgeon"

Iran's mullahs will need a few "rocket surgeons" of their own once we fly some cruise missiles up their collective shorts. It is difficult in the extreme to imagine that all of this hardware has been assembled without any intention of it seeing use. Election day cannot come any sooner.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-11-04 13:52  

#11  The old retired stuff is honored here and many other places
Posted by: 3dc   2006-11-04 12:23  

#10   some Orion Links

Free Republic on Project Orion
Posted by: 3dc   2006-11-04 12:21  

#9  Ahhh, Dinnerjacket , we have heard you. Now STFU and crawl back to your corner. We'll hit you in the head if we want to hear from you.
Posted by: SpecOp35   2006-11-04 12:10  

#8  Of course I am awaiting the first public flight of the Orion Space Ship that Kennedy canceled when he signed the testban treaty. I think Mecca would make a nice launch point for the first test flight.

Posted by: 3dc   2006-11-04 12:03  

#7  Well rumor was that Aurora was retired without a single photo. Also, those Boeing "Birds of Prey" are retired. Darkstar was abandoned after awhile.

So yep! I guess we have nothing but b52s, b1s and b2s. Yep Yep Yep.

No cards up or sleeves or under the table.. Nope. we are honest poker players. We don't even have a marked deck.
Nope!
Posted by: 3dc   2006-11-04 12:01  

#6  Glenmore -

It sure is a shame the US hasn't replaced them with anything.

...As far as we know. *WEG

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2006-11-04 10:08  

#5  A9 - I guess I should have sarc tagged my comment.

When I was in college ('70's) high orbit, civilian satellite photos were being RELEASED that resolved bridges, buildings, etc. Height of the Cold War. Civilian image processing software is MUCH more advanced today - even if nothing else changed that same 197x image would now show the vehicles on the bridge. Extrapolate the hardware 30 years and both hardware and software to military and I suspect the limits today on intel imaging are having enough analysts to interpret them.
Posted by: Glenmore   2006-11-04 09:48  

#4  What if it did Mach 6 and you couldnt see it?

Would you tell anybody?

We dont have anything like that, right?
We are so used to knowing secrets that we have come to conclude there arent any we arent privy to?

The best thefts are those that are in and out and none the wiser. Info is the ideal theft. You dont touch the thing itself except to put its content in your head and keep walking. The documents stay in the safe and you dont remove any originals.

The American tech can read a license plate from Outer Space. You can take a half mile of film in a sixtieth of a second. And its all in living color and Infrared. This isnt Francis Gary Powers anymore...and Eisenhower is no longer President.
Posted by: Angleton 9   2006-11-04 09:37  

#3  I suspect that slowly, the US is winning the war of nerves with the Iranian Command & General Staff, at least those who are serious military types and not politically appointed fanatics.

It doesn't take a "rocket surgeon" to figure out that if your enemy has really, really big ships, and one HELL of a lot more of them than you; AND that they are filled with much better aircraft, missiles, and personnel than you, that it would probably be a really, really bad idea to piss them off.

And the same rule applies to Generals who have received intel reports from trusted subordinates who have seen US ground and air elements in operation, and wrote up very concise communiques (with lots of exclamation marks) after scraping out the inside of their pants.

Of course, it really helps things to have it made clear that your civilian bosses are more than willing to sacrifice your lives because they believe that Tinkerbell will ascend from a well at the last minute and save your sorry asses.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-11-04 09:36  

#2  SR-71's been retired. F-117A's been retired. U-2 is semi-retired and 50 years old. It sure is a shame the US hasn't replaced them with anything.
Posted by: Glenmore   2006-11-04 09:21  

#1  "We stopped....the ractice. We're ready.. now"
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-04 09:08  

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