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Public Shaming of Prostitutes (and Wangs) Misfires in China
2006-12-09
Traditional Discipline Draws Angry Outcry
BEIJING, Dec. 8 -- To local officials combating Shenzhen's reputation as a den of vice, it seemed like a good idea, the perfect way to dissuade provincial girls from turning to prostitution in the big city and frighten away the men who patronize their brothels.

So after raiding the karaoke bars, saunas and barbershops where prostitutes often ply their trade, police officers in the southern Chinese boomtown paraded about 100 women and their alleged johns in the street, using loudspeakers to read out their names and the misdeeds they were accused of committing. News photographers snapped away while thousands of residents lined up to take in the show.
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#15  There is no more persistent critic of the communist Chinese regime than me, but the Chinese people value good government very highly (to an extent it's hard for Westerners to understand).

If the Chinese people "value good government very highly", why have they got one of the most evil there is? China remains one of the most backward "superpowers" this world has ever seen. It is responsible for much of the real grief currently happening including a portion of Islamic terrorism. People ARE responsible for their government's actions and yet you would paint China's people an innocent porcelain white.

phil_b, you come into this thread and criticize my posts without substantiating your own claims. Then you proceed to throw up accustions that are both inaccurate and some FIVE YEARS OLD. Beyond which you dispute a description of you that is subsequently confirmed by your very own behavior.

You refuse to answer some very basic questions or even address why I would post what I did and instead play (in the most superficial sense of "play") at character assassination. One can only wonder if you fully comprehend what sort of light this casts you in.

I have always tried to honestly respond to your persistent tirades and below-the-belt jabs. In the future, I may well choose differently. While it would be nice to think otherwise, I'll put it kindly by saying that you doing yourself a disservice. There are many more colorful and much more derogatory ways to frame your conduct. I just happen to feel that they are out of place at Rantburg in general, no matter how merited they might be in this particular thread.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-09 23:59  

#14  You can't be the only racist bigot Zen!

Well, that's a relief to know, bigjim. From all the accusations being flung about I was beginning to think otherwise!
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-09 15:17  

#13  And BTW, I suggest you look up the meaning of opaque

And your point is? Your demeanor is precisely defined by numerous adjectives that the word connotes. To challenge it only serves as proof.

o·paque - [oh-peyk] adjective, noun, verb, o·paqued, o·paqu·ing.

1. not transparent or translucent; impenetrable to light; not allowing light to pass through.

2. not transmitting radiation, sound, heat, etc.

3. not shining or bright; dark; dull.

4. hard to understand; not clear or lucid; obscure: The problem remains opaque despite explanations.

5. dull, stupid, or unintelligent.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006

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o·paque (ô-pâk') adj.

1. a. Impenetrable by light; neither transparent nor translucent.

b. Not reflecting light; having no luster: an opaque finish.

c. So obscure as to be unintelligible: "opaque, elusive, minimal meanings" (John Simon).

d. Obtuse of mind; dense. See Synonyms at dark.

2. Impenetrable by a form of radiant energy other than visible light: a chemical solution opaque to x-rays.

3. a. So obscure as to be unintelligible: "opaque, elusive, minimal meanings" (John Simon).

b. Obtuse of mind; dense. See Synonyms at dark.

n. Something that is opaque, especially an opaque pigment used to darken parts of a photographic print or negative.


[Middle English opake, shady, and French opaque, opaque (from Old French, shady), both from Latin opâcus.]

American Heritage Dictionary

As I recall you were the only person ever to be banned from that forum.

The quality of your recollection matches your vocabulary. Either you're kidding or you are just incredibly dim. Either way, you still have yet to respond to any questions of substance in this thread. Lingering about to cast up extremely stale aspersions hardly qualifies as either civil or well-reasoned discourse.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-09 15:12  

#12  Here is a video link (in Chinese) to the parade. I think I recognize one or two of the ladies
Posted by: tipper   2006-12-09 11:08  

#11  police officers in the southern Chinese boomtown paraded about 100 women...

State sponsored free advertising. So you spent the afternoon showing the young and old gentlemen of the community who to contact. Was this 'leveling' the playing field for those without internet access?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2006-12-09 10:22  

#10  Hey! You can't be the only racist bigot Zen!
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2006-12-09 08:08  

#9  Hey, Zenster recall I was the one who uncovered that you came here after being banned from the previous forum you were active in. As I recall you were the only person ever to be banned from that forum.

And BTW, I suggest you look up the meaning of opaque and I suggest at the same time you look up the meaning of obfuscate.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-12-09 06:29  

#8  Hey, I've always wanted to do this. Looks like the cops only erred by parading accused, not convicted.

Your choice: Six months in the slammer, or join the weekly parade down main street with a sign saying "WIFE BEATER", "CAR THIEF", or whatever. You can only do it twice, because after the first time, you need the threat of it happening again. If you do it two times, there's no more fear of humiliation punishment.
Posted by: gromky   2006-12-09 05:31  

#7  And you wonder why I think you are trolling in order to paint us all as racist bigots.

No, I just feel that, after years of clearly and consistently stating my own opinions, you may well be rather opaque for thinking so. If you check the record, I'm confident you'll find that I'm the one who is classed with "racist bigots" much more often than I ever do any such accusing myself. Furthermore, in the vast majority of our interactions it is you who hurl the insults and not I.

Back on topic: Did you read the linked thread? Do you have any disagreement with what I have posted in it? As a final question; Are people not supposed to be held liable for the actions of their government?
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-09 04:28  

#6  What you said was - All of which leaves China out as it remains uncontaminated by human civilization or modern society.

And you wonder why I think you are trolling in order to paint us all as racist bigots.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-12-09 03:46  

#5  phil, I've probably studied Chinese culture more than any other during my entire life. I'm equally aware of their historical achievements as much as their current shortcomings. China's present role in destabilizing the entire East Asian economic sphere, and much of the global economy including its security as well, leaves me more than a little short-tempered with the communist politburo. Beyond that, China's collaboration in that ongoing and massive crime against humanity known as North Korea has me in a particularly sour mood of late.

Additionally, I might be pro-choice but China's government enforced abortions go well beyond the pale, as does much of their near-constant violation of domestic human rights. In case you were unable to participate, I'd like you to please review my comments in yesterday's thread, "Most lakes in China are now wrecked". Should you be at varience with any of my observations, please consider posting them in this thread (moderators willing), as they tend to deal with Chinese society and it's impact upon both China and this world.

I'll close by mentioning that the few months I spent in Taiwan were among the most enjoyable traveling I've ever done in my life. None of that changes my deep distrust and concern over how China's economic piracy and meddling in world affairs is rejuvenating another protracted Cold War.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-09 03:30  

#4  5... 4... 3... 2...
Posted by: .com   2006-12-09 03:24  

#3  Zenster, that comment was totally uncalled for.

There is no more persistent critic of the communist Chinese regime than me, but the Chinese people value good government very highly (to an extent it's hard for Westerners to understand).
Posted by: phil_b   2006-12-09 03:03  

#2  "With the development of human civilization, such barbaric punishment has no place in modern society."

All of which leaves China out as it remains uncontaminated by human civilization or modern society.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-09 00:56  

#1  Instead of being praised for cracking down on vice, the Futian police came under a hail of criticism for violating the right to privacy of those who were paraded about in public

It won't be long now!

Posted by: gorb   2006-12-09 00:46  

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